Live data from Hacker News

My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

dannyguo.com

91–100 of 107 posts

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#91
post #11

Maybe the phone was silent but still flashing a screen? Mine does that in that mode. At my first job we had a guy who could spot incidents coming on the monitoring dashboard before they happened. He never managed to explain or even understand what he was looking for and no-one else picked it up, but he would just see something that made him say things were odd, and most of the time we'd get an alert shortly after.

Maybe some signals just bypass the part of the brain which deals with well defined facts. I read somewhere about a construction foreman (HN comment maybe?) who gained the respect of the crew by having an unusually good hit rate in finding piping in the ground or walls. He started to believe in his superpowers but later came to the conclusion that he just subconsciously learned the typical patterns, plus an occasional non-obvious sign. Something like a vent pipe in the wall of the building telling you that sewer piping is probably below ground.

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#92
post #65
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's application level DDoS, which you generally stop by not doing expensive work for clients that haven't done expensive work for you. Sometimes, easier said than done. And then there's volumetric DDoS. You can stop this by having more bandwidth than everyone else... but that's pretty hard and it makes you a potential attacker. Innovation here is in the form of using BGP to disseminate traffic filters. Null routi…

> Null routing is the MVP here: this IP is being attacked, so drop traffic to it as soon as possible. Oh, this poor guy is being DDoS'd, so we're going to make sure that their service remains denied. Null-routing the target IP helps everybody except the customer who is being attacked: namely, the network operator and their other customers. From the victim's point of view, it's just as frustrating as the attack itself…

So the suggestion here is to implement source routing on a whim, with a table of 100+k entries? At your peering point?

An ISP has to do what it has to do to save their business when a large attack hurts their business. This may be what the attacker wants but that's not an excuse to do nothing.

But what machine learning has to do with this is not clear. Null routing protects you against traffic volume. Machine learning sounds like it maybe can help diagnose more sophisticated low-volume attacks. Maybe. You don't want anything remotely compute intensive when mitigating attacks.

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#93
post #78
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Ransomware Reality Shock: 92% Who Pay Don’t Get Their Data Back” https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2021/05/02/ransomwa...

This stat includes everyone, some of them may not research what hit them. One of my clients decrypted his database twice, after seeing on the internet that they actually send a decryption key.

Oh, got it. So, the next ransomware author should just brand their ransomware as one of the "honest" ones :)

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#94
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make or get a human to stare at streams long enough and they’ll attune to the patterns. We’re wired for patterns. It doesn’t even have to be conscious and explainable. The signals just suddenly aren’t right.

My s/o is convinced she has a tell when we play rock / paper / scissors, and maybe she does, but if so I don’t know it. I just know that if I observe her closely and don’t make a conscious decision about what to throw, I win 80% of the time. Somewhere deep in my brain, there are neurons that developed for some more evolutionarily-relevant purpose and which are now a little disgusted with how they’re being used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microexpression might be one explanation.

You can somehow subconsciously detect those in your SO without doing it on purpose.

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#96

> With horrible grammar Ah, the days before ChatGPT! On a more serious note, do you think there will ever be a way to stop ddos attacks once and for all? While all threats are bad, ddos is the most lame type of attacks there is; no special skill or knowledge are needed, just load a script or, heck, pay someone who'll execute it for you as a service.

>> With horrible grammar

> Ah, the days before ChatGPT!

The topic made me read that as CatGPT, and now I can't pull it out of my head.

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#97
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, cats are notoriously bad at grammar.

You do know that’s just to throw humans off their scent right? Everyone believes they have bad grammar so when they launch the really serious attacks we all think it was a state agency rather than the cats.

You mean to say that a Nigerian prince is responsible for the xz backdoor?

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#98

We don’t have very many earthquakes in Kansas… but I remember the first/only one I felt. I was sound asleep when my Siamese woke me up by pawing my face… he then went and sat on the edge of the bed and growled aggressively (very out of character)… Not 30s later, things started shaking. No idea how he knew, but it was pretty wild. He passed away in 2020, still miss him.

Cats and dogs have been known to feel/sense earthquakes before we can! In the recent NYC ones there are videos of dogs howling before any of the tremors are noticeable by people. This is a common phenomena I believe.

Homer Simpson: “Somehow the animals are always the first to know”.

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#99
We once detected a DDOS because all our office phones went down. Silly attackers didn’t realise that our (money-making) APIs weren’t colocated with our public website and phone system.

Re: My cat alerted me to a DDoS attack

#100
post #66

We don’t have very many earthquakes in Kansas… but I remember the first/only one I felt. I was sound asleep when my Siamese woke me up by pawing my face… he then went and sat on the edge of the bed and growled aggressively (very out of character)… Not 30s later, things started shaking. No idea how he knew, but it was pretty wild. He passed away in 2020, still miss him.

I know how he knew. There are two types of sound in rock. P and S waves. P waves are pressure waves and go faster. S waves go side to side and are a bit slower. So you cat was woken by a hiss from the P waves, which arrive a bit before the earthquake that you can feel. See https://manoa.hawaii.edu/exploringourfluidearth/physical/oce... to verify that there are two types of waves, and the P waves arrive first.

I have been living in Japan for a while, and in my experience you can feel the earthquake coming a few seconds before the big shaking start. I don't know how to describe it, it is not a sound, more like a very slight movement.
Post reply on HN