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Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

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Re: Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

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For a long time, Google had similar monetization challenges. It was only after Adsense that they really started making money. I imagine FB's pricing reflects the expectation that they'll find a way to make serious cash, although I'm not overly optimistic on that front.

Yeah, but FB is not making good money even after they started posting ads.

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Re: Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

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post #62

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Didn't JPMorgan Chase just lose $3 billion? Seems like they're still a little too good at taking on risk.

And it's important to remember that $3bn is a fraction of one quarters profit at JPMorgan Chase. A lot of people could thusly call that perfectly acceptable risk.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=JPM - it's more than half of an entire quarter of profit for JPMorgan Chase, actually. Everything I've read says the $3B will increase as they try to exit the position, too.

Re: Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

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post #90

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And it's important to remember that $3bn is a fraction of one quarters profit at JPMorgan Chase. A lot of people could thusly call that perfectly acceptable risk.

One half of quarterly profits is a pretty big fraction. Exec resignations & the CEO apologizing doesn't sound like a lot of people are very accepting of the risks taken.

Days after the story broke shareholders had an opportunity to replace Dimon as the chairman and reducing his comp package -- leaving him with the CEO title. They overwhelming voted not to.

It's a big fraction, but it's just one quarters profits. It's not the destabalizing, company-breaking amount of money some people make it out to be.

JPMorgan has over a trillion dollars in assets on its books. The chicken-little nature of this has been a little silly I think.

Re: Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

#94

So what about the cancel/change orders being stuck in limbo the entire day? I was unable sell $fb because of this. Tried to dump them at 41.50, but because one cannot "trade with oneself" I couldn't. Heads should be rolling at Nasdaq by now...

This is why you do not play the IPO game unless you are an insider (underwriter or early investor of the company in question). You will lose. They will see to it. And you will have no recourse, as they are in bed with the regulators.

Re: Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

#96
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One half of quarterly profits is a pretty big fraction. Exec resignations & the CEO apologizing doesn't sound like a lot of people are very accepting of the risks taken.

Days after the story broke shareholders had an opportunity to replace Dimon as the chairman and reducing his comp package -- leaving him with the CEO title. They overwhelming voted not to. It's a big fraction, but it's just one quarters profits. It's not the destabalizing, company-breaking amount of money some people make it out to be. JPMorgan has over a trillion dollars in assets on its books. The chicken-little na…

Most shareholders had cast their ballot way before the loss was reported.

JPMorgan is not out of the woods, they have to unwind their positions to an unfriendly market. This ordeal may also make them more risk adverse, but possibly less profitable in the short-term. Less profits, more losses, isn't going to make people very happy.

I don't think it's the end of JPMorgan, but acting like they have $3 - $5 billion in the couch cushions doesn't sound very rational either.

Re: Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

#97
post #55

I'm glad about this. If we had trading that quickly doubled or tripled the market cap then that may well be evidence of unsustainably high valuations (I hesitate to use the word "bubble" [1] as it's largely a baseless pejorative at this point). That being said, some say this is evidence of FB being fairly priced. I disagree on two points: 1. Pre-IPO investors expect an immediate return. Investment banks ("IBs") under…

Having read Dan Ariely's post about "a note to Zuckerberg..." (http://danariely.com/2012/05/16/the-facebook-ipo-a-note-to-m...), I think the title better rephrased as "facebook IPO succeeds in not 'popping'..." instead!

Edit: I would summarize the post, but I would then spoil some of the drama of reading it as written.

Re: Facebook closes at $38.23 first day NASDAQ trading, above IPO price $38.00

#99

The after-hours charts are interesting. The stock price is bouncing around the $38.23 range (+/- $0.03), but even marketwatch.com is showing some jumps up to the $40 range.

after hours trading is not a great thing to try to trend with because the volume is so low.
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