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Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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Opera has been bundling in a mail client, rss reader, calendar app etc for ages now. I also always thought it was weird but Opera people seem to like it, to the point that inspired browsers like Vivaldi also do that.
Didn't Netscape bundle in a mail client before Opera did?
Netscape had a separate email and html composer application suite in the late 1990s. Opera had it built in along with a torrent client that couldn’t be separated from what I remember in a package that was smaller than almost all feature complete stand alone web browsers from 2003 and onwards.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#93the Opera guys seem to be trowing any idea they have to attract people, from a gaming browser, later a chess browser!? and who knows how many integrations.
This seems like a good idea though, too bad they are untrustable at this point.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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Long time Opera user here. I've been meaning to move to Vivaldi, and this AI crap was the push I needed. You can't even highlight anything in Opera without getting 3 different AI tool suggestions. It's just too much.
I just made the jump from Opera to Brave after ~5 years of dailying Opera. I wasn't hugely put off by the AI popup; in fact, without the AI bits, the select popup was nice to quickly search something. For me the driving factor was Opera's shady business practices of "use our VPN/AI/whatever" and then harvest data from that. Other than the recent(ish) UI redesign, though, Opera has solid UX. I will miss the interface,…
Brave is not much better either.
Brave browser installs a VPN service on Windows whether you want it or not. [1]
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/20/23925192/brave-browser-v...
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#95Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
With the amount of synthetic content that is already on the internet, and with even more to come, I think we'll unfortunately need to find a way to automatically filter that content to only what is really relevant to us. People are using AI to create incredible amounts of SEO content, to the point where just using Google to find something is becoming increasingly useless. If, on the other hand, you had an AI agent th…
You are missing an important fact: the SEO team and the Generative team are being funded from the same pocket. So it highly unlikely that the generator will do anything similar to protecting the user from bigcorp's spam, ads, and dark interfaces.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opera is an anything-Internet-suite. It's not just a browser, but aims to deliver interfaces for anything else people are doing with browsers. So anything for which most people would use a website or web-extensions, they deliver out of the box. And AI seems to be something that should be integrated deep into such an environment.
Mozilla (the browser) was like that wasn't it? Email, browser etc. and FF was the stripped down version.
Yes, it was called Mozilla Suite or Mozilla Application Suite, and is now named SeaMonkey.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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It makes it possible to do, in half an hour, tasks which were completely unnecessary to do before.
But why use the web browser as local interface for it? Why not a separate, native application?
For the same reason that a netbook/Chromebook is probably enough for most people: users rarely install native apps on laptop form factors these days - apart from the "essentials" like an office suite, and possibly specific programs they use to get work done (image/video editors etc.).
A browser is one thing that users will go out of their way to replace, making it a pretty attractive vehicle for stuff like this.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#98It can be instructed to browse on user behalf, this might be interesting feature presumably
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#100The question I have is, why should your browser also be the interface to local AI models? Seems totally unrelated to be honest.
Opera has been bundling in a mail client, rss reader, calendar app etc for ages now. I also always thought it was weird but Opera people seem to like it, to the point that inspired browsers like Vivaldi also do that.
> Opera has been bundling in a mail client, rss reader, calendar app etc for ages now
No longer the case since they switched to Blink. Nonetheless, Opera still comes with more built-in functionality than other browsers, such as ad blocker, in-browser VPN, and builtin ads occasionally.