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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by defrost » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:08 AM UTC

DonHopkins wrote: post #85

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and, cross bred from the popular silicon valey strain;

Relaxenundwatschenderblinkenlichten (Relax-watch-blinking-lights)

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by porbelm » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:09 AM UTC

odood wrote: post #65

I believe that overall the decision is a good one, there are no real good reasons why cannabis should be prohibited. At the same time, I strongly hope that the cannabis smokers will be considerate of the people around them. It is quite a foul smell if you are not partaking yourself.

Depends on if they smoke pot and hashish, to me. If you ever pour out a Carlsberg, their hops smell extremely like fresh, nice pot. Most non-smokers (canna or otherwise) seem to like it, or at least tolerate it. Hashish does have a much more pungent smell, and can be uncomfortable at times -- even to me, a smoker for 25 years now.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by dr_dshiv » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:10 AM UTC

u320 wrote: post #66

computerfriend wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw a man get hassled by Swedish police on a train just after crossing the Øresund Bridge. "The dog is very interested in your bag", they said. The man admitted that maybe he had smoked marijuana in Copenhagen and they left him alone. I'm sure selective enforcement is at play, but at least in my experience they didn't care.

That is not the norm. You won't get charged for smoking in Copenhagen, but it will put you in a high risk category for smuggling so their typical response here is to search you. They were probably under a high workload and had to prioritize heavily.

I heard cannabis is no longer openly sold in Copenhagen.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by Symbiote » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:12 AM UTC

u320 wrote: post #66

computerfriend wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw a man get hassled by Swedish police on a train just after crossing the Øresund Bridge. "The dog is very interested in your bag", they said. The man admitted that maybe he had smoked marijuana in Copenhagen and they left him alone. I'm sure selective enforcement is at play, but at least in my experience they didn't care.

That is not the norm. You won't get charged for smoking in Copenhagen, but it will put you in a high risk category for smuggling so their typical response here is to search you. They were probably under a high workload and had to prioritize heavily.

I have been searched twice crossing Øresundsbroen into Sweden, and both times I was the only one in the carriage to be searched. I have never seen them search anyone else.

They will always be under time pressure as the train needs to depart promptly.

(This is Swedish customs, nothing to do with identity checks. I don't use cannabis or socialise with people that do.)

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by ce4 » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:12 AM UTC

stavros wrote: post #45

7bit wrote: post #38

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> As of 1 April, adults in Germany are allowed to carry up to 25g of dried cannabis on them and cultivate up to three marijuana plants at home.

Oh, it was allowed to consume it, but not carry it? That's a bit odd.

Isnt it reasonable to penalize drug trafficking over consumption, which just targets end users

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by verisimi » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:12 AM UTC

RIMR wrote: post #67

verisimi wrote: post #56

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That's literally what the German government is doing. They are giving you back the choice, without the threat of punishment. I get that you're an anarchist or whatever, but repealing prohibition laws shouldn't be something you argue against just because you disagree with the concept of laws as a whole. That said, if you think that a lawless society would afford you any freedom, you are entirely mistaken.

By what means does a government have the ability to a/ take choice away, b/ give it back? Is it a moral consensus, if it is backed by force?

It's simply that the whole thing is an illusion agreed upon. Or rather, stumbled into, educated into, assumed! There's no agreed consensus.

Is it ok to mislead people into false beliefs?

> if you think that a lawless society would afford you any freedom, you are entirely mistaken.

Why not?

I could return the question, and ask, how do you think a lawbound state will give you freedom? Has it ever done anything other than bind individuals?

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by porbelm » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:13 AM UTC

7bit wrote: post #51

pinkgolem wrote: post #9

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Not sure if a landlord is able to dissalow this, as it does not damage the rental property i would be surprised if he is allowed to forbid it

Landlords can't forbid smokingo they certsinly vannot forbid growing Marihuana plants.

How high were you when you wrote this ;)

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by dr_dshiv » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:13 AM UTC

tdudhhu wrote: post #72

While I think freedom is good, I also think there are more people destroying their lives with drugs than people who can regulate their use. I've seen so many people waste their life on weed and alcohol that I can't be very happy about this news.

I know you can’t see me, but it really enriched my life. I wish more people knew how to be a virtuous cannabis smoker — it takes some effort

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by jillesvangurp » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:14 AM UTC

sleiben wrote: post #81

odood wrote: post #65

I believe that overall the decision is a good one, there are no real good reasons why cannabis should be prohibited. At the same time, I strongly hope that the cannabis smokers will be considerate of the people around them. It is quite a foul smell if you are not partaking yourself.

Worse than tobacco?

Tobacco is actually more addictive than weed. I have a friend in Berlin who substituted tobacco for some herbal mix some years ago. He was a heavy smoker until then. Basically he just kept on smoking but swapped out the tobacco. A few weeks in he realized he didn't need to any more. It, smells a bit unpleasant but it got him completely off the tobacco with essentially zero effort. He rolls like one or two a day max. Usually with some weed and a beer on the side.

I don't smoke myself (tobacco or weed) but I know plenty of people who do, or who used to (multiple packs a day, like my friend above). Quitting is hard apparently. So, from that to one or two per day sounds like it should be an improvement.

The nastiest thing with weed is having to deal with drug dealers to get it. Bringing it out of the criminal corner is a good thing. There are a lot of drug dealers who also sell far nastier stuff than weed. Crack cocaine apparently is a growing problem in Berlin.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by agumonkey » Mon, Apr 01, 2024, 10:14 AM UTC

kredd wrote: post #87

odood wrote: post #65

I believe that overall the decision is a good one, there are no real good reasons why cannabis should be prohibited. At the same time, I strongly hope that the cannabis smokers will be considerate of the people around them. It is quite a foul smell if you are not partaking yourself.

It’s been legal since 2018, up here in Canada, and other than extreme amount of cannabis shops in every other block, it’s basically been the same as pre-legalization. People who were into it, still into it. People who didn’t still don’t. Maybe just the people who were curious but didn’t want to try it because it was illegal tried it out and joined either of the camps. I’m not the biggest fan, but as a person who enjo…

Thanks for the report, so basically it removed the legal burden on people and police, no need to hide or buy at secret deals, and no need to arrest them all the time for smoking, is it right ?

Are there regulation on the production of cannabis on sale ? concentration and limits in amount of impurities etc ?