>But using without the Light Seal is a massive improvement. You’re closer to the screen, so it reduces the tunnel vision and expands the effective field-of-view. And rather than a black edge, you have a frame, with outside visibility. Same thoughts for Quest 3. I use mine exclusively without the light seal now. It is a huge improvement in the ability to just casually use the thing among friends and not seem like a we…
Thoughts on Vision Pro
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#92One of the most important and key points I hope Apple iterates on in an upcoming version is some type of universal undo action. It's immensely frustrating to be watching a video in the photos app and swipe a tiny bit wrong only to lose all current progress in the video even after you swipe back. Even scrubbing controls for long videos (1+ hours) can be super finnicky and it's tough to select accurately. The tradition…
Some iPhone apps have a "shake the phone to undo", but I've never ever seen anyone use this feature. So, perhaps not a useful precedent.
I always disable this feature.
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It’s cute that you think that companies can demand things from film studios. But in the real world that doesn’t happen and Apple needs their support to get this content on the platform in the first place.
Well, I had more freedom on my old VHS recorder.
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>Passthrough is massively oversold, even if it's technically impressive. They set expectations way too high. As a Vision Pro owner, kinda, but kinda not? I have a really low-power glasses prescription (-1/-1.5) and I've come to the conclusion that everyone saying this has the priviledge of being born with perfect (irl) vision. It's intentionally a little bit out of focus to obscure the screen door effect, which I und…
The passthrough camera has fairly low resolution compared to the inner displays, so if it looks "lifelike" to you, it's probably time to consider getting your glass prescription updated. Comparing the VP to the Quest 3, it's a significant upgrade (and should be, for the 7x price), but neither of them is anywhere close to "lifelike."
However in my living room during daylight, if I’m using the Vision Pro normally - i.e. interacting with apps, and not just staring at real world scenes to critique passthrough, then it easily creates the illusion that the content is in the room, and it doesn’t feel like I’m looking through a device. It has a long way to go, but it’s definitely capable of creating the illusion.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Passthrough is massively oversold, even if it's technically impressive. They set expectations way too high. As a Vision Pro owner, kinda, but kinda not? I have a really low-power glasses prescription (-1/-1.5) and I've come to the conclusion that everyone saying this has the priviledge of being born with perfect (irl) vision. It's intentionally a little bit out of focus to obscure the screen door effect, which I und…
The passthrough camera has fairly low resolution compared to the inner displays, so if it looks "lifelike" to you, it's probably time to consider getting your glass prescription updated. Comparing the VP to the Quest 3, it's a significant upgrade (and should be, for the 7x price), but neither of them is anywhere close to "lifelike."
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#98I owned one and this article is perfectly accurate. This guy hit the nail on the head on everything. Passthrough is massively oversold, even if it's technically impressive. They set expectations way too high. The comfort is the #1 reason I don't own a Vision Pro anymore. I feel exactly as the author put it, "relieved," when I take it off. I feel significantly more disconnected from my family when I have it on because…
Strangely enough, I don't own one, but just assumed this guy had hit the nail on the head with everything. Everything else I've read felt like it was pushing an agenda, this guy's writing just seemed like it was accurately weighing the pros and cons as he saw them.
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I would assume someone could easily integrate a controller for their app using the Game Controller framework [1]. So its not impossible. The only complaint I could see is there not being a standardize visionOS physical controller. But I assume that you could assume the PlayStation DualSense or SteelSeries Nimbus+[2] is probably what you should target controls for. [1] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/gamecon…
Unfortunately, a gamepad is just not sufficient for immersive VR gaming: you need something like the Meta Quest controller. And the lack of a first-party controller means that games will be forced to build sub-par gesture based controls as the default, with physical controls as an afterthought. (We already saw this play out with the Apple TV.) As a result, I highly doubt we'll get anything as advanced as Half-Life: A…
This seems strange, since so many folks love giant ultrawide screens for immersion whether playing console or PC and whether with controller or mouse+keyboard. They carry on how much immersion there is, and it's not nearly as visually immersed. So it seems less likely it's about the controller.
If they find the ultrawide immersive, and the controller is fine, why not AVP, since the "look around" control is just turn your head?
Do you not feel immersed when driving a car? You have fewer controls, and can't run around, you just sit there in your car seat, turn the wheel, turn your head, and gas and brake.
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#100I would love to hear from people that have tried to use this headset whilst wearing prescription glasses. Is Apple's own statement "You cannot wear Apple Vision Pro while wearing eyeglasses." accurate?
Notes on the experience...
- On the solo loop band I had to turn the knob to loosen the strap a lot to get enough clearance to position my glasses within the device. The dual loop band probably would not work at all (I didn’t try).
- My glasses are just barely narrow enough to fit within my light seal (25W). It's definitely not a guarantee everybody's glasses will fit into their own light seal.
- Once in, the eye tracking was very off, basically unusable. However, I did not do gaze calibration with my glasses on. That would probably improve things, but I suspect the device will always have issues correctly tracking gaze through glasses because normal glasses lenses can distort your eyes more than it’s expecting.
- There's really not much space between your glasses and the inside lenses on the vision pro. It seems like your glasses would start rubbing up against the inside lenses very easily, causing permanent scratches on one or the other.
So technically you can, but I would not recommend it. I’d rather just spend the $150 for the official lenses.