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Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

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Re: Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

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Wait you're telling me you can't make the next trillion dollar industry by incinerating capital while making no money?

You have a point, but remember Amazon and Google did exactly that and figured out the business model later.

this seems super misleading

Amazon nailed high revenue growth from the very beginning, just reinvesting in growth & deferring the margin story. They could have stopped at any time.

Google nailed high traffic from the beginning, so ad sales was always a safe Plan B. The founders hoped to find something more aesthetic to them, failed, and the conservative path worked.

The reason I write this is misleading is b/c this is very different from a ZIRP YC era thinking that seems in line with your suggestion:

- Ex: JustinTV used their VC $ to pivot into Twitch, and if that didn't work, game over.

- Ex: Uber raised bigger & bigger VC rounds until self-driving cars could solve their margins / someone else figured it out. They seem to be figuring out their margins, but it was a growing disaster and unclear if they could with such an unpredictable miracle.

In contrast, both Amazon & Google were in positions of huge cash flows and being able to switch to highly profitable growth at any time. They were designed to control their destinies, vs have bankers/VCs dictate them.

Re: Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

#92

what's the real reason?

The most obvious potential real reason is Stability isn't making money, and the people that matter don't think Emad was going to be able to turn it around.

Well, that means his replacement will be a money shark, enshittyfying Stability AI for higher profits.

Re: Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

#93
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I love their product, but I was suspect of Emad ever since he said “There will be no programmers in five years.”[0] That just sounds so simplistic that I don't believe he believes it himself. [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stability-ai-ceo-no-human-193...

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Re: Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

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Well it's been almost a year since he said that. You would think we'd have lost the first chunk of programmers to AI by now.

We have, there are a bunch of bottom of the barrel executives that have done hiring freezes and layoffs under the assumption that AI would replace everything. It will go the exact same way as the outsourcing craze that swept the industry in the mid aughts. The executives that initiate the savings will be praised and rewarded lavishly, and then when everything blows up and falls apart those responsible for the short s…

Are there any good numbers on how many positions this has affected?

Re: Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

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The most obvious potential real reason is Stability isn't making money, and the people that matter don't think Emad was going to be able to turn it around.

Well, that means his replacement will be a money shark, enshittyfying Stability AI for higher profits.

There's nothing to enshitify, their models were open sourced. Now they may no longer release future models for free, but its entitlement to think we'll just get free improvements forever.

Also not all CEO replacements turn out bad. Uber certainly has turned itself around.

Re: Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

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post #88

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> $200M in revenue in 2023 with 0 external investments and only 40 employees. The dream

For a founder maybe , definitely not for employees . AI startups need not an insignificant amount of startup capital , you cannot just spend weekends to build like you would a saas app . Model training is expensive so only wealthy individuals can even consider this route Companies like that have no oversight or control mechanisms when management inevitably goes down crazy paths, also without external valuations optio…

As a counter-point, with no VCs there's more equity left for employees.

Re: Emad Mostaque resigned as CEO of Stability AI

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Midjourney is the most popular discord channel by far with 19.5M+ members, $200M in revenue in 2023 with 0 external investments and only 40 employees. The problem has nothing to do with commercializing image gen AI and all to do with Emad/Stability having seemingly 0 sensible business plans. Seriously this seemed to be the plan: Step 1: Release SD for free Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit The vast majority of users couldn'…

I wonder if MidJourney is still ripping. I’m actually curious if it’s superior to ChatGPT’s Dall-E images… I switched and cancelled my subscription when ChatGPT added images, but I think I was mostly focused on convenience.

If you have a particular style in mind then results may vary but aesthetically Midjourney is generally still the best, however Dalle-3 has every other model beat in terms of prompt adherence.
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