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Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by sseagull »

rauljordan2020 wrote: post #65
cdme wrote: post #22

Couldn’t be less interested — art is interesting for its human qualities. This is pointless dreck.

Except that if I heard this on the radio or in my music streaming recommendations I’d think it’s a banger and would be jamming to it all day. A song I heard from the site earlier blew my mind and my friends were asking me who the artist was. The lines are more blurry than we think. The song made my day and made me emotional and that’s enough for me

Does your perception of the song change depending on who the artist is?

What would you think of the piece if the artist was a young girl? A grown Turkish man? Someone who is deaf? A neo-Nazi Holocaust denier? A rich businessman using AI and just looking to make more money? A poor teenager using a computer at their library?

I think most people’s like/dislike/perception of the song would be colored by who made it and how it was made.

You can’t always separate the art from the artist.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by onemoresoop »

Eager wrote: post #54

I have been playing with it for the last couple of weeks. I do a lot of traditional music production for fun and was wondering how I could use Suno together with Leonardo for video and then bring it all together in my existing tools. Here are some examples. I wrote the lyrics by hand and the music has been reinforced with my existing studio equipment. For me, that is where the gold is. Not replacing myself, but exten…

I've been listening to some Frank Sinatra AI made songs, youtube for the song "Frank Sinatra - where is my mind". It's originally a Pixies song but as as recreation with Frank Sinatra's voice is surprisingly good. I wonder what took to produce that, it seems like there's a lot more artistry than just prompting make a song by artist X as a cover for song Y of artist Z.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by thefaux »

thomassmith65 wrote: post #84
cdme wrote: post #22

Couldn’t be less interested — art is interesting for its human qualities. This is pointless dreck.

The most truly 'human' music is a group of people chanting in unison, maybe stamping feet and clapping hands. It's unlikely we had instruments for most of our evolution. There's no evidence we had complex harmony nor even chords for most of the existence of our species.

I don't think you should exclude a single voice singing alone from truly human music. There are things that only a single individual can do musically as well as things that only a group can do. But I will say from experience that singing in a group (particularly improvisationally) is one of the best experiences in life and I seek it out as much as possible. Listening to ai generated blues on the other hand...

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by [deleted] »

kmbfjr wrote: post #58
isusmelj wrote: post #38

This is really cool. Song: https://app.suno.ai/song/83680b6f-db37-44de-adf9-3f7fff6b79d... Prompt: A 90s hip-hop song with a male singer with a deep voice singing about how AI models are creating new songs after being trained on all the data of artists. Talks about AI models are stealing the show. Lyrics: [Verse] Step back, my friend, 'cause the future's here AI models spittin' rhymes, oh so clear (oh so clear) Train…

Oh my, it sounds like nearly every other pop artist complete with whisper mumbles, edgy manufactured vocal tics and devoid of melody. It nailed contemporary music.

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Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by Pine_Mushroom »

Jensson wrote: post #83
Pine_Mushroom wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chord sequences are not subject to copyright.

What else stops people from playing the first 10 seconds from a song? Its just a few chords in a sequence. The reason I've heard people don't do that is that they will get a copyright strike.

I would think maybe this is a 'hack' to avoid bots that scan for copyrighted material?

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by inference-lord »

yieldcrv wrote: post #59
isusmelj wrote: post #38

This is really cool. Song: https://app.suno.ai/song/83680b6f-db37-44de-adf9-3f7fff6b79d... Prompt: A 90s hip-hop song with a male singer with a deep voice singing about how AI models are creating new songs after being trained on all the data of artists. Talks about AI models are stealing the show. Lyrics: [Verse] Step back, my friend, 'cause the future's here AI models spittin' rhymes, oh so clear (oh so clear) Train…

it didn't listen to you at all though. it gave you the most feminine male voice possible

I think that's how most people who use generative AI use it.

It's a novelty thing. They get something back and are happy. Move on...

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by Spivak »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #46
isusmelj wrote: post #38

This is really cool. Song: https://app.suno.ai/song/83680b6f-db37-44de-adf9-3f7fff6b79d... Prompt: A 90s hip-hop song with a male singer with a deep voice singing about how AI models are creating new songs after being trained on all the data of artists. Talks about AI models are stealing the show. Lyrics: [Verse] Step back, my friend, 'cause the future's here AI models spittin' rhymes, oh so clear (oh so clear) Train…

Creating a song about AI taking over, and backing it with the most derivative EDM hip pop, that's some brilliant irony.

Artists: I can't make this it's too similar to my other work / other artists.

Listeners: Oh yeah, that scratches the noggin, give me 10 more just like that.

The drive to have to have to create something genuinely novel is how neo-classical, art and fashion got to their current state which, while interesting, is completely divorced from the kind of clothes real people actually wear or art people hang on their walls. And when you need a fanbase you find a voice that resonates with people and riff off it.

Hell, most people describe their taste in art in terms of genres and styles that have rules and formulas. The fact that I know how every alt-z song is going to be structured from the first 15 seconds somehow doesn't make it less enjoyable to listen to.

I don't think AI is gonna take over or anything but I also think music is one of those areas where it can be more successful than average because people like formula in their music.

The rule of "learn how to blend in, then stand out" / "learn how to follow the rules then break them on purpose" makes AI an interesting tool because having the ability to take a unique concept and then make the AI "fill in" the parts where you don't want to break the mould sounds super useful.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by amelius »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #55
m3kw9 wrote: post #17

Music with no soul, it would be like eating fake meat that tasted very real. Not bad if you weren’t told before hand

To be fair, most commercialized music is formulaic, the only difference is that people had to be paid to record it. I think the biggest problem with AI generated stuff is that the I in AI is hype, these things can't create real novelty. They're a new, poorly understood form of compression. If creativity is left to these AIs then the music will sound the same in 20 years at best, or more likely, degrade/converge when…

Yes, but I imagine if you put a human inside a brain scanner, add a feedback loop that uses AI, then you can generate novel stuff with the human being used to just passively rate the output of the AI. You could build a small farm with humans, and generate novel commercial music.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by corobo »

isusmelj wrote: post #38

This is really cool. Song: https://app.suno.ai/song/83680b6f-db37-44de-adf9-3f7fff6b79d... Prompt: A 90s hip-hop song with a male singer with a deep voice singing about how AI models are creating new songs after being trained on all the data of artists. Talks about AI models are stealing the show. Lyrics: [Verse] Step back, my friend, 'cause the future's here AI models spittin' rhymes, oh so clear (oh so clear) Train…

I dunno if I'm just being overly picky because I know it's AI generated but it feels like the timing is all off in this example (musicians please chime in!)

Sort of like the musical equivalent to someone trying to do a comedy set off a teleprompter

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