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Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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> …nor can you report it to Apple from within the App Store. You can, since 2021. https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/4/22705405/apple-report-a-p...

I don’t see the option in the section that is referenced, only the privacy policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://imgur.com/a/bOL3eCL

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

Do you mean the search result or the ad that pops in at the first space? For me all those have good results but all contain ads for more or less unrelated apps

I would also expect products with premium pricing to not contain ads.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

I am still surprised that when I search for a specific app (as you did for your bank) I still see junk ads before the real app shows up. Apple should be better than that. They seem to have the same bad incentive Google search does. What is CFD gambling? When I read “CFD” I always think of computational fluid dynamics and so “CFD gambling” sounds pretty cool to me. Obviously I do know I’m just overfitting to a TLA and…

> Apple should be better than that.

Everyone should be better than that, but as far as Apple specifically, they're really no better than any other hypermegacorp. Apple's a company, it doesn't give a damn about you, it only gives a damn about enriching its owners.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

> scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products This won’t fit with the manufactured popular understanding, but at the current time, Google protects you from fraud and scam better than anyone. I have been unfortunate enough to be scammed recently from a bing search result (ad). (It was a new computer and I decided to use Edge and bing was the default search). Apple, Microsoft etc. are rookie…

This is true. Btw, the macOS app store is also full of products that you really shouldn't use and most of software you really should use have alternate ways that you buy them going through their website and get something so that you can install. Microsoft Office, JetBrains IDEs and Adobe products all will install and update without you having to go through the macOS Appstore.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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I am still surprised that when I search for a specific app (as you did for your bank) I still see junk ads before the real app shows up. Apple should be better than that. They seem to have the same bad incentive Google search does. What is CFD gambling? When I read “CFD” I always think of computational fluid dynamics and so “CFD gambling” sounds pretty cool to me. Obviously I do know I’m just overfitting to a TLA and…

> Apple should be better than that. Everyone should be better than that, but as far as Apple specifically, they're really no better than any other hypermegacorp. Apple's a company, it doesn't give a damn about you, it only gives a damn about enriching its owners.

It really does undermine the legitimacy of their claims that they should be the only source of apps, for safety reasons, of course. That reason alone is why they "should be better"; It would serve to legitimize their dogma.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

On the contrary, as someone who has worked with both platforms as a developer, this is my personal opinion:

- Around a lot of things software, including the Play Store, Google’s safety and security, for all its ads, tracking and shenanigans, are real, largely verifiable, discussed openly, and pretty fucking robust (not to mention, most of it are actually open).

- Apple’s? Smoke and mirrors! Essentially some vague shit which often ludicrously boils down to Safest Shit Ever On an iPhone™ (and doesn’t go further than that) and never discussed or even offered a glimpse of.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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post #93

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> Apple should be better than that. Everyone should be better than that, but as far as Apple specifically, they're really no better than any other hypermegacorp. Apple's a company, it doesn't give a damn about you, it only gives a damn about enriching its owners.

It really does undermine the legitimacy of their claims that they should be the only source of apps, for safety reasons, of course. That reason alone is why they "should be better"; It would serve to legitimize their dogma.

Yeah, I consider it short sighted.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Pretty much every brand or app I search for finds a competitor first. Searching for "robinhood" turns up an unaffiliated cryptocurrency app and "macrofactor" turns up a competing diet app, etc. App store search has been broken for at least a few years.

Do you mean ads or organic results? Apple should remove App Store search ads altogether (I'm sure they won't). By definition they won't give you the app you searched for, because the keyword will be bought by a competitor or even a scam.

What if you're searching for "bank" or "flashlight" or "map"?

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Promoted results in Google are loaded with scams. According to one recent report, 75% of brands are affected ( https://searchengineland.com/google-search-ads-brands-fraud-... ): The researchers who conducted the report found that retail giants such as Amazon, American Airlines, Lego, Pizza Hut, and Samsung were all victims of identity fraud within Google Search Ads. Here's a Google SERP for "Facebook" which shows Fac…

>Google even vouches for the advertiser Google vouches that the advertisers is who is he says he is. Google is not vouching for the reputation if the advertiser.

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