We will see how long they can keep this facade up. I expect a couple of fines are needed to rein them in.
Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU
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#93What the hell is going on at Apple? It's starting to become really funny to see one obviously non-compliant malicious compliance attempt being made after another. Do they really not understand that they're no longer involved in the relationships between users and developers?
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#94> Web Distribution, available with a software update later this spring, will let authorized developers distribute their iOS apps to EU users directly from a website owned by the developer. iPhone users don't really own their own device, do they...
The iPhone revolution was that your phone used to be owned by the carrier, but now was owned by Apple, and Jobs got away with it.
Hence why most European countries just mostly stayed with pre-paid, and operators have been trying to bride us with contracts for iDevices, or if that doesn't get us, contracts in disguise for pre-paid users as post pay.
I will keep using Android devices with physical SIM until it isn't no longer viable.
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#95Apple keeps a strong control nevertheless, as detailed in the page "Getting ready for Web Distribution in the EU." > Apps offered through Web Distribution must meet Notarization requirements to protect platform integrity, like all iOS apps, and can only be installed from a website domain that the developer has registered in App Store Connect. Further, the conditions for eligibility seem to block access to new startup…
The one million requirement is where you start paying them the 50cts per install, right?
An interesting perspective, makes it surprisingly fair play and totally crippling to third parties at the same time.
I guess the outcome will be that outside some completely irrelevant oddballs there will just be one or two entities like Epic serving the intersection of non-casual gamers and people who consider the iPhone a gaming platform and they won't pull much market away from Apple, but serve as a limiter to how much Apple can abuse their platform rule. It will look like a failure, but only because some of the limiting effect on platform abuse will also bleed into makets not directly affected by EU rules.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Always wait for a point release". It seems for this we need to wait for the _next_ point release. It should become clearer for EU side of the movement also - it is far from certain that Apple to be the one f*cked.
I don't trust the EU much to fix the things that I personally care about indeed. Namely: unrestricted access for new, small entrants. Less restrictions on utilities. Stuff like that. My favourite pet example: I want DaisyDisk for iOS. What does Cook need threatening with to allow that?
Are you sure you want iOS? Perhaps you want Android?
Sounds like you just want the iPhone hardware, but not the spirit of the OS that contributed to what it is. Adding manual disk management makes more like running Windows XP than a smooth "mostly just works" phone.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just the size requirement makes it useless, why would anybody bother with a web distribution if they already have 1 million (!) installs on the appstore where they already have all their customers?
The front runners for doing this would probably be Google and Meta. Large companies that publish several ad-supported apps. Side stepping the App Store would let them revert Apple’s privacy protections for tracking However, I believe another statute of Apple’s implementation is that developers must pick. App Store or Self Distribution— an app cannot be both
I don't see how they would. Aren't many of the anti tracking features implemented at the OS level?
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#98The terms and conditions for web distribution [0] are concerning to say the least. In short, you have to have at least one million first installs annually on iOS to even qualify, in addition to other terms such as "good standing in the Apple Developer Program for two continuous years or more". I doubt Epic and the like would be considered in good standing as far as Apple is concerned. Also, quote unquote, developers…
In other words, you're only "eligible" for web distribution if you meet the threshold to pay the Core Technology Fee tax? (on top of the other requirements). Sounds convenient.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
The iPhone revolution was that your phone used to be owned by the carrier, but now was owned by Apple, and Jobs got away with it.
Hence why most European countries just mostly stayed with pre-paid, and operators have been trying to bride us with contracts for iDevices, or if that doesn't get us, contracts in disguise for pre-paid users as post pay. I will keep using Android devices with physical SIM until it isn't no longer viable.
Due to financing options like Klarna, keeping on monthly prepaid sim-only plans (which are cheap) and using a finance option to purchase the device outright has become much more popular at least in my circle in the UK.
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#100All computers are Turing machines.