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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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"Died from self-inflicted wounds" - Isn't there a word called "suicide" for this thing?

No, not necessarily. At least according to Wikipedia, suicide is the act of _intentionally_ taking one’s own life. [1] It seems that the legal definition, at least in some jurisdictions, aligns. [2] If you find someone has died from self-inflicted wounds, it may be ruled suicide or accident. The colloquial use of suicide may also include accidental suicide, which could introduce confusion.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide

[2] https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=2057

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case like him been granted some sort of police escort by the court? Guy paid the ultimate price for freedom of speech and informing the public. Wonder if someone will sustain there is no threat to freedom of speech because the lawsuit involved the company where he was employed, not the government.…

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No, not they are not. The military and intelligence apparatus does not care if Boeing has to pay a fine. They will not carry out an execution at Boeing’s behest just to save them from a lawsuit. Conspiracy theorists love conspiracy theories because they allow them to feel smarter than the “sheeple” that believe the official story. They don’t care if the actual conspiracy theory is wildly implausible and stupid, it’s…

You vastly overestimate how hard it is to have someone killed. It doesn't take nation-state resources to kill a random civilian. It's a few tens of thousands of dollars. Even a few million is basically nothing to a corporation like this.

It’s not the money that’s the issue, it’s the risk of getting caught with multiple life sentences. They got money to spare but it’s useless when you serve 50 behind bars.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not they are not. The military and intelligence apparatus does not care if Boeing has to pay a fine. They will not carry out an execution at Boeing’s behest just to save them from a lawsuit. Conspiracy theorists love conspiracy theories because they allow them to feel smarter than the “sheeple” that believe the official story. They don’t care if the actual conspiracy theory is wildly implausible and stupid, it’s…

The military and intelligence apparatus does not care You don't need the whole apparatus, just someone who has been trained by it and is morally flexible. Well, you don't even need that, but obviously people with professional experience tend to do a better job. We do not have evidence yet of this being a murder-for-hire or similar, but you're insisting on the impossibility of such when in reality it's not all that un…

Pretending this is common in the West is absurd. Why wouldn’t POTUS have journalists killed then? Surely he’s more powerful than boeings CEO.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You vastly overestimate how hard it is to have someone killed. It doesn't take nation-state resources to kill a random civilian. It's a few tens of thousands of dollars. Even a few million is basically nothing to a corporation like this.

It’s not the money that’s the issue, it’s the risk of getting caught with multiple life sentences. They got money to spare but it’s useless when you serve 50 behind bars.

And that's why no murders are ever committed, because the possibility of jail time or capital punishment dissuades anyone who would consider committing murder.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#98
The emotional strain of being a whistleblower and having your colleagues now see you as the enemy is not something I’ve read about, but it must take a toll. A whistleblower, almost by definition, is a hero to strangers and a villain to those they know and work with.

Or he was simply executed like in many corporate espionage movies.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #14

He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case like him been granted some sort of police escort by the court? Guy paid the ultimate price for freedom of speech and informing the public. Wonder if someone will sustain there is no threat to freedom of speech because the lawsuit involved the company where he was employed, not the government.…

Aaron Swartz, not Schartz.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#100
post #95

Is there a pattern? This seems to happen way too often in western corporations. (Here's another example, could give you many more: Suicide of VW whistleblower in 2020: https://www.t-online.de/finanzen/news/unternehmen-verbrauche... - use Google Translate).

Many many people commit suicide in western countries. That’s the pattern imo.

I’m guessing the stress of pointing the finger at the company and people you’ve worked for and with for 30 years is not insignificant.

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