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OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Nah, Steve Jobs would need to be alive for that, and they haven't come out with iResurrection yet. The public hasn't really thrown themselves into reverence for Apple since the last Jobs product announcement. Even the Apple Watch's reception was kinda lukewarm. They make good hardware, but they aren't cool hype machines the way they were a decade+ ago.

What about Apple Silicon? Not a product per se, but...

No one outside of select circles cares.

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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> The company will also announce the appointment of three new directors, Sue Desmond-Hellmann, a former CEO of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Nicole Seligman, a former president of Sony Entertainment, and Fidji Simo, CEO of Instacart, the Information said. This selection of directors seems...random? Is there a business reason for these directors? (aside from the obvious YC link with Instacart)

All women, announced on International Women's Day. The only significant side that's obvious.

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Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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If AGI achieved, Microsoft doesn't have the claim on it commercially. Microsoft with 49% stake in the for-profit entity and non-observer seat, what actually protects Microsoft here? First hand information that AGI is reached? Are we not seeing a card in Microsoft's hand here?

Do we have a formal legal definition for AGI?

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All women, announced on International Women's Day. The only significant side that's obvious.

We (humans) are so cheap and easily deceived. They pick us large salaries and we build whatever. They pander and we become subservient.

Do you feel that none of them have any merit outside of them being women, and that there was some kind of “best potential OpenAI director” exam that all men are required to take but these three were allowed to skip because of their gender? Is that the deception?

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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post #59

I'm not necessarily saying they're wrong, but there's really no way to put out a release like this without a "history is written by the victors" vibe coming across.

He pretty clearly won. There's not much to it. A huge chunk of the company went into open revolt and he got a competing offer that threatened to recruit all of them. There's nothing really underhanded or sneaky about it: the board drastically overplayed their hand, and all Altman and Brockman had to do was say "I call". To use the parlance of this community of people: people's priors here all seem to be that somethin…

the strat the board took

I think there were no strategy, they burnt a fuse instead.

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He pretty clearly won. There's not much to it. A huge chunk of the company went into open revolt and he got a competing offer that threatened to recruit all of them. There's nothing really underhanded or sneaky about it: the board drastically overplayed their hand, and all Altman and Brockman had to do was say "I call". To use the parlance of this community of people: people's priors here all seem to be that somethin…

> but the strat the board took here was so obviously doomed that they should probably be looking for hypos about the board being shady. Is it possible the interests of the employees align more with the interests of Altman and that they diverged from the rest of the Board (which the Board did not expect)?

That's pretty much it. They did act in the best interests which should have been obvious. OpenAI started giving various people, including the engineers a share in the company. A share in the company is only worth something if the company behaves as a company and sam represented the capitalist side of the company while Ilya was focused on the benevolence side. Of course Sam won.

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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> The company will also announce the appointment of three new directors, Sue Desmond-Hellmann, a former CEO of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Nicole Seligman, a former president of Sony Entertainment, and Fidji Simo, CEO of Instacart, the Information said. This selection of directors seems...random? Is there a business reason for these directors? (aside from the obvious YC link with Instacart)

You've listed the single previous role but they all have a long long list of achievements in tech? Nothing random about it.

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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post #59

I'm not necessarily saying they're wrong, but there's really no way to put out a release like this without a "history is written by the victors" vibe coming across.

He pretty clearly won. There's not much to it. A huge chunk of the company went into open revolt and he got a competing offer that threatened to recruit all of them. There's nothing really underhanded or sneaky about it: the board drastically overplayed their hand, and all Altman and Brockman had to do was say "I call". To use the parlance of this community of people: people's priors here all seem to be that somethin…

My takeaway is that neither side comes out of this looking very good.
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