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Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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There needs to be more of a consequence for large companies who create platforms like this, then get a bunch of developers & users dependent on it, and then pull out the rug.

And not necessarily government regulations. Maybe a contract that guarantees operation for X number of years should become the standard, or even better, an explicit agreement to open-source discontinued products so the community can continue running them.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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post #91

There needs to be more of a consequence for large companies who create platforms like this, then get a bunch of developers & users dependent on it, and then pull out the rug. And not necessarily government regulations. Maybe a contract that guarantees operation for X number of years should become the standard, or even better, an explicit agreement to open-source discontinued products so the community can continue run…

Ideally people (devs) would remember companies like that and avoid them in the future when they decide on which platforms to build their next project or which APIs to trust.

But in reality people (me included) will be annoyed today and forget it tomorrow, when a cool new platform is announced.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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post #91

There needs to be more of a consequence for large companies who create platforms like this, then get a bunch of developers & users dependent on it, and then pull out the rug. And not necessarily government regulations. Maybe a contract that guarantees operation for X number of years should become the standard, or even better, an explicit agreement to open-source discontinued products so the community can continue run…

Ideally people (devs) would remember companies like that and avoid them in the future when they decide on which platforms to build their next project or which APIs to trust. But in reality people (me included) will be annoyed today and forget it tomorrow, when a cool new platform is announced.

this is already the case. most devs I speak with stear away from GCP for large integrated projects.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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I haven't tried it, but allegedly Outlook for Android runs better on Windows than the new Outlook for Windows. Which makes some sense, as one is a native app and one is a web app. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/i-ac...

Outlook is hot garbage and has been for a lot time. Every single version.

I can't operate without it (the Windows native version). Everything else pales in comparison from a productivity standpoint.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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Interesting to note that there's an alternative specifically for running Android games on Windows - Google Play Games [1] which is Google's official offering, and it does not rely on WSA tech so that it works on Windows 10 as well. [1] - https://play.google.com/googleplaygames

Doesn't run on some hardware where Bluestacks does.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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post #91

There needs to be more of a consequence for large companies who create platforms like this, then get a bunch of developers & users dependent on it, and then pull out the rug. And not necessarily government regulations. Maybe a contract that guarantees operation for X number of years should become the standard, or even better, an explicit agreement to open-source discontinued products so the community can continue run…

The usual excuse for not open-sourcing is that commercial products aren't developed in a vacuum. Flash, for instance, supposedly included a bunch of codecs that Adobe didn't have the license to redistribute as source.

At a bigger company, there are presumably dependencies on in-house build systems, standard libraries, etc. Maintaining open-source versions of those is unfortunately a non-trivial task.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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Is the Windows store popular now? Aside from Microsoft dog fooding I didn't get the impression it was very much used even after all these years.

Last time I checked the MS store it was mainly bikini wallpapers. Not kidding ...

Bikini wallpapers?! Oh my god, that's disgusting! Where?

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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I found WSA kind of handy to run Pocket Casts on old Microsoft Surface Tablet. Had to jump through some hoops to install Google Play first. What's the best alternative? Bluestacks seems very shady. Chrome OS Flex in a VM? (Scratch that. It looks like Chrome OS Flex doesn't allow Android apps) P.S. Do we make "jokes" about Microsoft killing things off like we do with Google?

What's wrong with the pocket casts webapp?

I use the android version through WSA because it supports chapters which the web version doesn't and it also does a better job of remembering my location when I switch from it to my actual phone than the web app does.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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So, this is the second time a "run your Android apps on Windows" initiative fizzles out: before WSA (which was Amazon-centric), there was a late-2020 "Your Phone" feature that (briefly) allowed Samsung apps on Windows desktops. Not sure if this means anything other than "phone apps run best on, well, a phone", especially since I can't think of anything from my phone that I would truly like on my desktop, other than i…

Your Phone / Phone Link still supports this. See: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/setting-up-apps-in....

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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Can this be run in Hyper-V? https://www.android-x86.org/

The trick to that is similar to the Intel/Apple split: just having the OS doesn't help if the apps are for a different architecture. (I'm aware of qemu/Rosetta/etc but that's not something that Android has ever tried to solve (AFAIK) - rather, they declare any native library packages at the .apk level and one is expected to pick the right installer for the right architecture)

I think that Android-x86 has an ARM emulator.

Doesn't Dalvik/ART compile Java Bytecode down to a native layer anyway, so this wouldn't matter?

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