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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#91

Post by justusthane »

bauruine wrote: post #7
digging wrote: post #5

I'm excited for this. I've found Kagi to be very useful having widgets like this, in addition to the search results being good. I still have DDG as my search engine for ephemeral searches[1] on my phone and I'm getting sick of it. I don't know if I'd say the result quality has been getting worse , it's just not good and hasn't been for years. Kagi on the other hand feels like an ideal subscription service. It feels l…

You can use the session link [0] in incognito so you don't have to login each time. [0] https://kagi.com/settings?p=user_details

Woah, what an awesome feature!

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#92

Post by [deleted] »

dewbrite wrote: post #28

> To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content. That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine. How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#93

Post by nullstyle »

swyx wrote: post #88

TIL that Wolfram Research has 1000 employees. what do they... do? what is Wolfram's revenue? i'm completely out of the loop. This is the size of Automattic - which makes Wordpress. is Wolfram on that scale? idk.

Mathematica is a commercial product: https://www.wolfram.com/mathematica/pricing/

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#94

Post by x0x0 »

dewbrite wrote: post #28

> To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content. That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine. How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

I think quite well. I've been using kagi for a couple months and I'm super happy with it, esp for programming-adjacent searches. You should give it a try! (not an investor, just a happy user).

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#95

Post by [deleted] »

jxy wrote: post #76

> welcome Stephen Wolfram to Kagi’s board of advisors This is interesting. I guess we will soon read a longwinded post about it from the first person perspective.

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#96

Post by rgovostes »

7thaccount wrote: post #72
rgovostes wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can input Mathematica (ahem, Wolfram Language). I suppose yet another use for LLMs: better translation of natural language input into structured Wolfram calculations. Unsurprisingly, they're already advertising "Wolfram GPT" and have added LLMSynthesize[] etc. to Mathematica.

I assume the translation is a bit more rigorous than running through an LLM.

Which is the problem: It is using natural language processing techniques that were state of the art in 2009, but have been completely eclipsed in the past couple of years. The "rigor" tends to be at odds with the fluidity of user input: typos, search query-ese, ambiguity, etc.

The challenging problem that Wolfram|Alpha tries to solve is conversion of natural language queries to structured ones. Although I doubt Wolfram's parser has been completely static for a decade, the most recent generation of language models are vastly better at translating natural language queries to structured ones. See also: how terrible Siri is at everything.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#97

Post by ziddoap »

rqtwteye wrote: post #27
andrelaszlo wrote: post #22

I love using WA as a calculator since it's so good at handling units. Silly example: I just tried "average distance to moon/Eiffel Tower height" in Kagi and got "= about 1.167 million" (powered by WA).

Good to know! This will help in figuring out when reading the news and they describe everything in tennis courts , school buses and football fields. How do you convert from tennis court to school bus?

You forgot Olympic swimming pool as both a length unit and a volume unit.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#98

Post by jerpint »

jxy wrote: post #76

> welcome Stephen Wolfram to Kagi’s board of advisors This is interesting. I guess we will soon read a longwinded post about it from the first person perspective.

A new kind of search engine

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#99

Post by dingnuts »

fs111 wrote: post #13
aesh2Xa1 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On mobile incognito you'd need to access that session link and go from there. You cannot just use the address/search bar, as mobile browsers like Chrome do not include a config to put the link.

Mobile Firefox allows it.

you have to love that the GP says "browsers like Chrome don't allow" and the two responses under it are "Safari does" and "mobile Firefox does" -- literally the only other browsers in the mobile ecosystem

maybe this limitation isn't "browsers like Chrome". Maybe it's JUST CHROME with the limitation, because Chrome sucks, and has for awhile now.

It's almost like the developer of Chrome doesn't want you to use a different search engine. Funny, that

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#100

Post by mrweasel »

bigyikes wrote: post #62
mminer237 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Kagi just pays to use Google's and Microsoft's indexes.

Google sells their index?? (Microsoft famously sells theirs to DuckDuckGo, right?)

Microsoft sells Bing to a ton of search engines, it has been the go to for everyone who wanted to run a search engine.

Ecosia have also been relying on Bing, but recently announced that they've now added Google as well.

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