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Re: Updates to US verification requirements

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It's not so easy for customers to buy crypto to make these Web3 payments. If your bank is Chase you basically cannot without them closing all your accounts.

Chase doesn’t let you send funds to Robinhood or coinbase? Fwiw I used Solana pay last year in a brick and mortar retail, and it was on par with Apple Pay UX. Granted I already had phantom on my phone with funds in it. But yeah I hear you that asking someone to download a wallet and fund it isn’t a great way to run a business. But if the burden of regulations becomes too high, I could see it being a thing. Fwiw, I se…

Chase will let you but then close your accounts within 6 months when their trust and safety team does their audit triggered by your transaction. It's a well known thing that Chase loves to boot customers for sneezing the wrong way while interacting with them.

Re: Updates to US verification requirements

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Worth a shot if anyone can help me out / is facing the same problem. I'm a US non-resident (from the UK) who registered a business via Stripe Atlas, and used Earth Class Mail (a Stripe Atlas partner) to setup and incorporate my company when I signed up to Stripe Atlas. Due to the nature of my business, a large majority of payments are micro-transactions, so I spoke with a Stripe employee who kindly enabled micro-tran…

I am in a similar situation than you, after spending quite a bit of time on this, I think there are 2 possible solution:

* The slightly hacky one: Find a virtual office in the U.S. whose address isn't flagged by Stripe + get a virtual U.S. phone number

* The proper solution: You need to transition to a UK Stripe account and provide your UK address/phone number. Even though your business is incorporated in the US what seem to matter is where you effectively do business. As long as you can provide a proof you are effectively doing business from the UK, Stripe will not have any issue with getting you a UK based Stripe account for US based corp.

This is all very weird, especially as you said, Stripe Atlas specifically encourages you go the registered agents route, only to then have the rug pulled from under your feet.

Re: Updates to US verification requirements

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All businesses have a home. They must comply with a set of laws (yes, including business permits) and be able to respond to disputes. A business with no physical location is not practical in society.

> All businesses have a home. There is a vast difference between a disgruntled violent person showing up at the address of SmallGuy LLC (which happens to be their home) and the same type of person showing up at the street address of, say, Apple who has thousands-strong security force. > A business with no physical location is not practical in society. This comment on HN of all places is clearly incorrect, since most…

>most web businesses don't exist in any physical location.

They have employees, they have servers, they absolutely exist in a physical location.

Re: Updates to US verification requirements

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post #88

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> All businesses have a home. There is a vast difference between a disgruntled violent person showing up at the address of SmallGuy LLC (which happens to be their home) and the same type of person showing up at the street address of, say, Apple who has thousands-strong security force. > A business with no physical location is not practical in society. This comment on HN of all places is clearly incorrect, since most…

>most web businesses don't exist in any physical location. They have employees, they have servers, they absolutely exist in a physical location.

> They have employees, they have servers, they absolutely exist in a physical location.

Many years ago, yes. Today, no.

The servers are in "the cloud". Employees are all remote, there is no location for the company itself.

My previous company was 100% remote from day one. I never met anyone in person.

Re: Updates to US verification requirements

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Worth a shot if anyone can help me out / is facing the same problem. I'm a US non-resident (from the UK) who registered a business via Stripe Atlas, and used Earth Class Mail (a Stripe Atlas partner) to setup and incorporate my company when I signed up to Stripe Atlas. Due to the nature of my business, a large majority of payments are micro-transactions, so I spoke with a Stripe employee who kindly enabled micro-tran…

I am in a similar situation than you, after spending quite a bit of time on this, I think there are 2 possible solution: * The slightly hacky one: Find a virtual office in the U.S. whose address isn't flagged by Stripe + get a virtual U.S. phone number * The proper solution: You need to transition to a UK Stripe account and provide your UK address/phone number. Even though your business is incorporated in the US what…

I've been banging my head against a wall the past few days trying to work out a solution to this. I've yet to make a decision, but my discoveries / theories so far:

- Stripe Atlas accounts are treated separately to regular US Stripe accounts at the moment when it comes to address verification. My Stripe Atlas account has passed this verification fine because of this difference (maybe because Stripe auto-uses the Delaware registered agent I paid for during Stripe Atlas setup as physical address?), but a regular Stripe US account using the same Earth Class Mail address fails verification. Stripe support says this: 'The address given to you on your Stripe Atlas account will be valid as it is provided by our partner, but then for normal Stripe account, one requirement is to have a physical business address.'

- I'm wondering if the Earth Class Mail address for my Regular Stripe US account is failing specifically because it has the words 'PMB XXXX' (private mailbox) in the first line of the address. This address was given to me at random by Earth Class Mail when I created my Stripe Atlas account, and I didn't really think anything of it - but I can see how 'PMB' is an instant red-flag for not being a physical location. The exact error message I get is: 'Invalid address. Your business address must be a valid physical address from which you conduct business and cannot be a private mailbox'.

- Also stumbled across the virtual office solution. Instead of PMB's they have 'suite numbers' in an actual building. I agree it also feels hacky, and likely to come under the same verification issues, but might a short term fix for my PMB issue. A lot of the services I contacted seem a bit shady though. I even emailed one of Stripe's partners (usestable.com) with a specific question regarding if their virtual addresses still work with Stripe, and have so far got no response.

- Co-working spaces like WeWork and Regus offer a virtual office service, which seem a bit more legitimate than some of the specific virtual office services I've seen, but come with a higher price-point.

I will probably try a cheap virtual office solution first, then move onto the co-working solution if that fails. I want to try and avoid switching Stripe accounts if possible as I think it's going to cause a lot of pain with migrating subscriptions etc.

The meta-issue here is the quality of Stripe support. I have paid so much to Stripe in transaction fees, but when a problem like this threatens to shut down an account I operate, all I get from them is vague answers, pointing to documentation, and 'computer says no' responses from people who have no idea what they're talking about.

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