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Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by aitchnyu »

sergiotapia wrote: post #85
PanMan wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree.. but I'm surprised how little Heroku alternatives have popped up yet.. There is new contestants, mostly focussed on more global deploys, but no "Heroku but maintained" that I know of.. yet.

There's a ton, sharing in case you've never seen them. In a linear graph from "Heroku" to "VPS do-it-yourself": |------------------------------------------------------------| Heroku Render Railway NorthFlank Fly DigitalOcean That's how I would place them from easiest to hardest. Of course DigitalOcean is not a PaaS but bear with me. I use Render for https://www.gamedrop.gg/ and it works really well for me, very hands…

Which are the players between Northflank/Fly and DO and work with Python? For example AlwaysData allows you to SSH and inspect your stuff and has managed DBs and backups.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by realusername »

plufz wrote: post #41
CSMastermind wrote: post #28

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Heroku is one of those things that if someone tells me their still on it without a plan to migrate I question the executive leadership at their company. Shade of its former self, expensive, and there are plenty of better options. Really seems like the company is in zombie mode until it's eventual slow demise.

I haven’t used Heroku in a long time but I really liked the feeling of starting up a database and a container for the app with two clicks. Which are the main alternatives in that space today?

I just use Dokku on a VPS and it works fine.

Sure it might not scale but Heroku didn't either.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by mathattack »

MissTake wrote: post #2

Our renewal got Shanghaied by an extremely greedy and over zealous sales rep who injected himself between us and our renewals reps, and wanted to turn a sub $80k renewal into damn near $200k this year and $300k next. Needless to say it got nowhere fast and, by the time he gave up and threw us “back” to renewals, the damage had been done. We elected to do what they thought was unthinkable and we just walked away. My o…

The Salesforce reps just couldn’t help themselves. Too much Oracle in their DNA. Ruined the customer relationship, and encouraged the move to Microsoft and their “free” alternative.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by lupire »

jherskovic wrote: post #84

I was a big Tableau champion at our org. Lots of dashboards, led a user group, was the go-to expert for a while (think 10 years ago). For us, what killed it was the pricing. They got very greedy very fast. Justifying a 4-digit license, per desktop, was the real killer. We just couldn’t, so the creation of dashboards became a tool of a “priesthood” of sorts. Everyone loved the way the dashboards looked and performed,…

Dumping Monopolist always wins.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by scrapcode »

MissTake wrote: post #2

Our renewal got Shanghaied by an extremely greedy and over zealous sales rep who injected himself between us and our renewals reps, and wanted to turn a sub $80k renewal into damn near $200k this year and $300k next. Needless to say it got nowhere fast and, by the time he gave up and threw us “back” to renewals, the damage had been done. We elected to do what they thought was unthinkable and we just walked away. My o…

I'm in the enterprise procurement world and it's mind-boggling to me how many software companies in the past two years have forced themselves to $0 revenue from us by trying to double (or more!) their already exorbitant prices.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by DanielHB »

infecto wrote: post #77
PanMan wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree.. but I'm surprised how little Heroku alternatives have popped up yet.. There is new contestants, mostly focussed on more global deploys, but no "Heroku but maintained" that I know of.. yet.

I am not surprised. There are a handful of competitors but I believe the ship has sailed. I am a complete AWS dunce but it's too easy for me to spin up an ECS with spot machines and run my python app on it. When Heroku hit the scene and for many years, there was no easy alternative. You had to go and provision your own machines to then setup.

Is it just me or ECS is relatively complicated? I mean, it is no k8, but still you need to set up a lot of stuff to get it to work.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by anon84873628 »

scrapcode wrote: post #95
MissTake wrote: post #2

Our renewal got Shanghaied by an extremely greedy and over zealous sales rep who injected himself between us and our renewals reps, and wanted to turn a sub $80k renewal into damn near $200k this year and $300k next. Needless to say it got nowhere fast and, by the time he gave up and threw us “back” to renewals, the damage had been done. We elected to do what they thought was unthinkable and we just walked away. My o…

I'm in the enterprise procurement world and it's mind-boggling to me how many software companies in the past two years have forced themselves to $0 revenue from us by trying to double (or more!) their already exorbitant prices.

Is this greed, or a struggle for them to survive?

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by anon84873628 »

aaronharnly wrote: post #51
KingOfCoders wrote: post #22

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Looker is obscenely expensive compared to Tableau. Also the UI is bad. The caching of Tableau is a huge money safer and huge performance boost if you e.g. use it with BigQuery (cut our BG costs by 80%). As with every data tool, you need strong data governance, or everyone will define their own metric for revenue and then you have endless discussions about "why the data is wrong" (it isn't). The biggest benefit to me…

We use both Looker and Tableau. It’s astonishing to me how Looker has stagnated since being acquired by Google. It’s really moribund.

One wonders why Google bothers acquiring companies if it's impossible to integrate them into the monolith.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by cutemonster »

anon84873628 wrote: post #97
scrapcode wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the enterprise procurement world and it's mind-boggling to me how many software companies in the past two years have forced themselves to $0 revenue from us by trying to double (or more!) their already exorbitant prices.

Is this greed, or a struggle for them to survive?

It's sometimes a good move and I've seen it recommended here at HN pretty often I think. look:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16477003

"I've now 4X'd my pricing (from 3 figures to 4 figures a month!) and the customers got 10X better, complain less, I work less and earn more"

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Post by d_sc »

sergiotapia wrote: post #85
PanMan wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree.. but I'm surprised how little Heroku alternatives have popped up yet.. There is new contestants, mostly focussed on more global deploys, but no "Heroku but maintained" that I know of.. yet.

There's a ton, sharing in case you've never seen them. In a linear graph from "Heroku" to "VPS do-it-yourself": |------------------------------------------------------------| Heroku Render Railway NorthFlank Fly DigitalOcean That's how I would place them from easiest to hardest. Of course DigitalOcean is not a PaaS but bear with me. I use Render for https://www.gamedrop.gg/ and it works really well for me, very hands…

beautiful graph
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