The virtuous mean between time drunkenness and work martyrdom

Post by sibeliuss » Mon, Feb 26, 2024, 6:25 PM UTC

ikr678 wrote: post #54

sibeliuss wrote: post #43

My colleagues would consider me a 'work martyr', but what they don't understand is that my strategy is to get everything done as fast as possible and then to significantly chill. With deadlines covered and all the details buttoned up way ahead of time, it leads to a much less stressful life.

My partner has this same philosophy, but somehow all that seems to happen is them taking on more work (uncompensated) as soon as they get ahead, and the sought-after chill period and energy for non-work never seems to materialise.

This resonates. I had to learn to take the chill period, and now it works.

Post by jvanderbot » Mon, Feb 26, 2024, 7:36 PM UTC

paulryanrogers wrote: post #30

jvanderbot wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument has another side, equally preposterous: That because of the increased productivity we should all be wealthy, working a few hours a day to do the "same" work, or being rewarded proportionally more (of course, inflation adjusted) for working more than that. It's preposterous because relative wages have stagnated relative to productivity boons, but oh man has standard of living increased as you say. A perso…

Can we trade iPhones and TVs for retiring at 40, with healthcare, housing, and food for life?

Well yes - if you are willing to adopt a standard of living from 100 years ago, then you can probably easily afford it with modest savings at age 40 or even less. I'm talking multi-generation homes in a not-very-urban area, maybe a car, and you have to fix a bunch of stuff yourself.

If you wish to retire on the median standard of living from 2024, well, that's gonna cost median wages from 2024. If you want to retire on your standard of living, well, you'll need 40 years of your income to last you till 80. That's hard to do.

The median standard of living nowadays is lightyears ahead of the median standard of living from 100, 200, etc years ago. That's almost all productivity increases spread around to all of us.

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