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YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I know it's silly but I sometimes feel anxiety at the prospect of that enormous bank of knowledge getting lost in some way or another (e.g. Google deciding it wants to do something else or some disaster). It is truly invaluable to _humanity_

youtube is doing it's best to now hobble search functionality on youtube, which is already a disaster from a discoverablity perspective. not to mention the huge amount of content that gets deleted due to claims of all kinda of nonsense and other bogus reports and faulty automated detection.

It's often all but impossible to find videos from a few years ago. Wanting to show your now adult children a viral video from a decade and a half ago, nowhere to be found.

Sometimes it feels like you're gaslighting yourself down a memory hole.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I can’t stand how they shove YouTube Shorts down our throats and don’t give us a way to disable that. I am a huge fan of YouTube overall and have been happy to pay to have an ad-free experience

IMO what Instagram has done is worse. Reels every other post in the feed, reels in stories, reels specific tab. On top of all that, yesterday I wanted to post a 5 second video post, just a regular video post, of my dog doing something, and no matter what I did it insisted on posting it as a reel, even though at one point I cancelled the new post, went back to the "new post" view, made sure "post" not "reel" was selec…

this is what made me finally quit Instagram. I was only following friends and family. if it had been 3 friends posts for every 1 ad and zero other stuff pushed at me I'd have stayed but the signal to noise ratio got too high and I finally got fed up and deleted my account last month.

I often want to do the same to YouTube as it's recommendations are atrocious and it provides no good ways to turn off the noise. 4 easy things I'd like.

The obvious, let me disable shorts.

Next up, separate music from non-music. 30% to 50% of their recommendations are for music when I'm not looking for music. By separating them they can give me 100% music when I want music and 100% non-music when I don't.

Let me chosoe for it to never recommend videoes I've already watched. 5-10% of their recommendations are wasted on vidoes I've already seen. That should include videos I've manually marked as already watched

Don't recommend mixes. (maybe ok in music mode of they'd separate music from non-music)

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #51

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The problem is that Youtube severely nerfed their search (ironic given that Google still pretends it's a search company). Now if you search for something will give you 5 relevant videos, 10 "for you videos" and then an endless list of something it hopes you will engage with, whether relevant or not

I just opened the YouTube app and the first recommended video is "youtube's search function is atrocious now". Their search function may be bad, but the addiction feed is spot on!

Not for me... I'll go in a tangent for a couple videos,. Then have to sell out something else from my follows... Sometimes to discover I'm no longer following the channel. I can't stand it more often than not.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #28

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It just caused me to stop paying for Spotify. Spotify is clearly better, but Youtube music is really 'good enough'

Same. Isn’t this behaviour exactly what got Microsoft in anti-trust hot water?

The government doesn't care about anti-trust much anymore. It's been two decades since it lifted a finger.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #59

For now that is. I sort of hope someone more motivated than myself makes a timer for how long before the crappification* of YouTube begins now that it appears MBAs will be taking over. The new CEO probably has some gumption, but it seems inevitable. * of course this is subjective, but generally I can find lots of great YouTube content. I can buy premium to avoid the ads and become the client, not the product. 1: http…

The crappification of YouTube has already begon with Shorts and the inability to disable this completely useless content.

If you click the X on the Shorts section it says "We will hide Shorts for 30 days"

How about you hide them forever? Some MBA must have decided that it would not be good for their KPI if people could just ignore the clickbait.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

#96
post #87

I enjoy paying and watching Youtube Premium on my TV (through a sideloaded app), but whenever I open the official app on my iPad, I am bombarded with Shorts, every search I make returns clickbait, unrelated content among the real results and that annoys me so much I keep thinking I should stop giving Youtube any money. Google, the bloody search engine company, keeps making sure that every search I make about video ga…

I wish that Rubble or others worried nearly as well. Also a TV user (NVidia Shield TV) and it seems every other time I check Rumble I have to sign in again. The recommendations are garbage and half the content feed is just noise.

I'd really like something similar but not so heavy handed as YouTube gets on suggestions and content filtering.

I've also tried a few also ran video services and none haber been even as good as rumble as bad as their TV app is.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Those who use youtube as TV, what do you watch? Is there a way of consuming YouTube that is more like consuming Netflix, where the 1% (or 0.001%) that is "professional" content is curated somehow? I mean I have no interest in scrolling videos of people eating detergent, I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube?…

> I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube?

I don’t understand your question. You talk with people you care about, they tell you what they recommend and then you use the search bar to locate the content and watch it.

This is so obviously the answer to your question that I am worried I am misunderstanding you in some way.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #83

Those who use youtube as TV, what do you watch? Is there a way of consuming YouTube that is more like consuming Netflix, where the 1% (or 0.001%) that is "professional" content is curated somehow? I mean I have no interest in scrolling videos of people eating detergent, I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube?…

If you want any recommandation subscription is needed. I use multiple profile to separate things like more learning focused vs gaming or whatever. Never watch a silly random video in one of those profile.

This sounds like an exhausting amount of work for a paid product

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Stunning that they don't invest more in their TV apps, especially the Apple TV app. Their single-row horizontal scroll UI is so frustrating.

Not sure on that... Amazon prime is pretty atrocious. Similar for Netflix anymore. And the CBS/Paramount TV app won't work right at all with my pihole blocking their tracking service. WTH.

It wouldn't take much for Rumble to do better, but it seems like the TV app experience is such a minimal priority for them.

Max was decent and so was Discovery... Since the merger both are worse and they aren't even merged. Just worse than before.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #28

I used to scoff at the idea of paying for YouTube, but I'd absolutely consider it if they had a cheaper plan that excluded YouTube Music.

It just caused me to stop paying for Spotify. Spotify is clearly better, but Youtube music is really 'good enough'

Same here... I did keep Spotify for a while for Joe Rogan, but their Android TV app is crappy and video support sucks badly. YouTube Music is good enough, but the previous incarnation was slightly better IMO.
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