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app store monopoly did you read the article?

Wasn’t Apple forced to open up their App Store monopoly?

Yes, and they are not complying but believe they can get away with abusing tiny loopholes. The are sabotaging the whole idea.

For example them demanding that app developers have to pay APPLE if they are distributing their apps through a different App store is the exact opposite of the intention of the EU regulations, and plain evil.

Re: Rotten Apple

#92
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> I’m going to get a lot of emails from confused users wondering why their app is broken, now opening in a regular browser window. Newsflash incoming for you.. Just about none of your users will (1) care (2) used the "PWA" in the first place. It's really not that common to add apps to the home screen. Among very technical users, it's a fair bit more common though.

From the article: There is no native app for The Session, but you can install it on your phone nonetheless. Lots of people have done that. After a while they forget that they didn’t install it from an app store: it behaves just like any other app on their homescreen. Maybe you don't believe this but it was addressed.

I thought PWAs already didn't work well on iOS, though?

Apart from opening in a browser window rather than as a full-screen app, is this going to behave significantly differently from before?

Re: Rotten Apple

#93
post #36

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This is actually a big problem on Android. My ex father-in-law literally had his bank account ripped off (£18000) from rogue app installed from outside the app store. And Google's stewardship of the play store is terrible. Note I'm mostly an Android user.

That story sounds rather fishy. So your father has found the hidden option to enable developer mode which allows APKs to be sideloaded, and then went to some website to download and install an APK? By the way: According to Kasparsky [1] last year there have been 600 Million downloads of malware that was installed from Google play store, without any sideloading or alternative App stores involved. And of course the App…

Yeah he was persuaded to do it, ironically considering YT is Google, using a video on YT which was trying to sell him VPN software. I blame the paranoia from the constant VPN industry adds being forced down your throat really but the point is that it still does happen.

I will add that I have a lot of unsigned APKs on my device as well, but not from those sources!

Re: Rotten Apple

#94
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> Instead of graciously acknowledging that this is what’s best for users, Apple are throwing a tantrum. I’m a user and a developer and I’m convinced this is not what’s best for users.

I am a developer and user, and I think it is better for me at least.

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Apple always assume that you use their devices as primaries. It can be very annoying. When I wanted to get my wife a replacement MB, I ended up checking out as a guest as they insisted on sending my 2FA code to my iPad (which mostly just annoyed my toddler).

> Apple always assume that you use their devices as primaries Assumes or tries very hard to make the alternative as difficult as possible? From a company that prides itself in improving and simplifying UX the dark patterns aren't mistakes.

Maybe the UX is so good because they don't care to have a development team supporting your 0.001% edge case of you wanting to run iMovie on your Sun Workstation running Solaris.

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#96
The best thing everyone can do is to keep making noise and Streisand Effect the hell out of this. Make Apple’s arrogance cost them something. Don’t just sit by quietly while they dismantle the future of computing to protect their revenue streams.

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Apple always assume that you use their devices as primaries. It can be very annoying. When I wanted to get my wife a replacement MB, I ended up checking out as a guest as they insisted on sending my 2FA code to my iPad (which mostly just annoyed my toddler).

No. The user base for Apple Music on Windows is huge. Apple devices are secondary. Using the AM app is primary, once you've been successfully sucked into the Apple ecosystem, Borg-like.

Sorry? Like the OP I run predominantly Linux and I noted my experience with Aple 2fa and my assumptions around why it happens.

Perhaps I'm incorrect but what I said did happen to me.

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#98

Perhaps we have reached peak Apple. I was a fanboy for a long time but when USB-C came to the iPhone something clicked for me. There was no good reason except money making why they didn't do it sooner. Perhaps the magic spell is broken. Yes, their computers may be good, but maybe the company that makes them, isn't.

I remember having this exact conversation with a girlfriend who though it was dumb that Apple was being forced to change their charger port.

One day she was like "ugh! I forgot my phone charger at home" and I was like "your phone uses USB-C now. I have dozens of those lying around."

She kind of tilted her head and said "huh. that's convenient." Like, she'd simply never thought about it that way before.

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#100

Sure this situation already exists on Mac OS but that is a much smaller user base and there are plenty of alternatives where you can go and install arbitrary software. I deal with weird stuff my parents have installed on their Macs every time I visit… so far I haven’t had to do that with their phones. If I wanted them to use a Firefox browser engine on their phone I’d get them an Android.

Yeah but then they just won't chage the browser enginr and nothing will change. I don't think your parents would go out of their way to change the browser engine or am I missing something?
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