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Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

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Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

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Following the link, and a few more, describes at as changing "when volume buttons are pressed during high CPU load". That is perhaps random-seeming, but also way different from actually being reandom. I have never used a (modern) Mac long enough to listen to audio, so I have no experience with this I just thought it sounded odd. Now having learned that, I really ( really ) wonder how such a bug can happen, and how it…

> Now having learned that, I really (really) wonder how such a bug can happen, and how it can stay ignored for so long by the always-ranted-about masters of vertically integrated luxury computers. More the former, though. My first guess was that "volume up" is actually "increase volume on left channel" and "increase volume on right channel" And when there's high CPU load, one of those commands gets lost or ignored fo…

And they can't synchronize this?

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

#92
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The audio balance on Apple computers changes randomly, and has done so for at least a decade. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/79384/audio-balanc...

I've been using macs since the 90s for "serious amateur" music production, and I listen to music while working on an MBP daily, both via the headphone jack and via a USB audio interface, and I've never encountered that. Is there no idea what triggers it?

Quickly changing the system volume while the system is under heavy CPU load, plus chance.

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

#93
post #42

The fact that this has existed for so long and is common enough to warrant a third party program devoted to resolving the issue is an embarrassment for Apple. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/balance-lock/id1019371109?mt=1...

See also recent thread on menu items hiding behind camera notch... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39343919

'Just works'!

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

#94
post #46

Reminds me of my "favourite" macOS issue: alternative keyboard language input is carried over to the next app I switch to, or Spotlight. Almost 20 years of forcing me to switch back to the default language hundreds of times a day. Any idea if it can be fixed by an app? Thanks!

That has (since forever) been covered with a Settings toggle.

Keyboard -> Input Sources [edit] -> Automatically switch to a document's input source.

Checking it maintains different "active input source memory" per app.

Unchecking it keeps a global "active input source".

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

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Long ranty post.

I'll use the occasion to crap on macOS because yes, I experienced this, not to mention random devices disconnecting in conditions of higher memory pressure (i.e. starting a k8s cluster and doing tests, then tearing it down, then starting another etc.) -- one time even my keyboard disconnected which was annoying to say the least.

To this day my $300 dock sometimes doesn't at all get detected after I wake up my iMac Pro. A $8000 machine and an OS developed by trillion+ $ dollar company cannot properly wake up all devices after sleep. Yep. :|

I appreciate macOS as a system for users where SIP et. al. prevent people from shooting themselves in the foot -- Apple has mostly solved the problem of careless users clicking on stuff they really shouldn't. (Excluding phishing.)

But as a programmer, I am now on a course to gradually and eventually move back to Linux. Why?

- Everything is just faster. A Manjaro XFCE with the latest kernel (6.7 as of 2024-FEB-14) just makes everything fly on my AMD 5500U laptop. Telegram starts in 0.5s while my iMac Pro needs at least 5 seconds. Firefox with all its addons boots up in about 1.5s. I know all of the lag and delays are related to security scanning but it does get tiring after several years. As a programmer I want to say "everything in these directories is trusted, I'll suffer if I am wrong, now leave me alone" which of course I can't do.

- Related to the above: Intel Macs are likely unofficially now second-class citizens and frak all of us who invested in them, right? The iMac Pro costed me $8000 and I'll use it until it blows up in my face, that's non-negotiable for a $8000 machine. So I'd think whatever performance gains or optimizations are being done for macOS, the Intel architecture is probably a persona non grata already.

- Just lately Erlang's team fixed an absurd issue where due to JIT using memory mapping macOS literally shows me a popup while I am coding! Save an Elixir file in my NeoVim (which invokes the LS) and whoops, there, you have a micro popup that disappears after ~0.2s. And it can be a problem if you cancel it (has an X button inside which I assume is focused by default) but seriously, just working in your editor leads to micro popups that disappear fractions of a second later... WTF. And their fix? They moved to use another memory mapping API. Which is a workaround in fact, not a fix. I feel for them so hard.

- A lot of goodies are hidden behind paid software which is 100% fine by me (obviously we all want to be paid for our work) but it does send a signal that Apple doesn't care much -- iStat Menus is a good example and SoundSource is probably the best example (and strongly related to the original article); why do we need SoundSource at all? Why is this not handled by the OS? And again on the money issue, as much as I want to support other programmers, it starts feeling like you are being nickel-and-dimed as time passes by.

Honestly, after using macOS full time for about 4.5 years, I am not impressed. I like the displays a lot and I know I would miss them dearly and my eyes will be unhappy which is basically my main reason for sticking with macOS for a workstation (well that plus the $8000 investment I made 4.5 years ago which let's be honest, has paid for itself already, many times over).

Another thing I do like is the menu bar and I'll duplicate that functionality on my XFCE laptop soon enough, so not much of a loss.

I believe at one point I'll just start ssh-ing into my AMD 5500U laptop so I can reap the benefits of the amazing iMac Pro display while still having Linux's benefits on my side. And I didn't even mention how much I can tinker with it e.g. I wanted to experiment with various ZFS and bcachefs setups and of course I couldn't do that without a VM... did I mention I never found a truly good VM manager for macOS?

But that tinker-ability is just the tip of the iceberg and this comment became huge enough already.

If you have gotten this far -- any ideas how to properly secure an XFCE environment? I'll need to install Chrome and Zoom at one point but I don't trust their creators to not pwn my system the moment I run the installer and as we know X11 is not at all secure; likely both softwares will record each of my keystrokes and upload them somewhere. So, anybody knows how to properly isolate a desktop program on XFCE? And if that's not possible on XFCE I am open to migrate to whatever other DE allows it.

Thanks for reading.

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

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post #94
post #46

Reminds me of my "favourite" macOS issue: alternative keyboard language input is carried over to the next app I switch to, or Spotlight. Almost 20 years of forcing me to switch back to the default language hundreds of times a day. Any idea if it can be fixed by an app? Thanks!

That has (since forever) been covered with a Settings toggle. Keyboard -> Input Sources [edit] -> Automatically switch to a document's input source. Checking it maintains different "active input source memory" per app. Unchecking it keeps a global "active input source".

This only works if the next app has a text input in focus.

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

#97
post #67

as a long term apple user, their blatant disregard for fixing bugs is really starting to piss me off to the point where next time i upgrade my phone and computer, i'm probably going back to android/linux. their software is literally a microsoft-tier experience (maybe even worse at this point) across the board now, and i'm not going to keep paying a premium for non-premium bullshit full of stupid bugs any junior dev c…

I'm using about every Apple product you've listed and only encountered the first problem and even then only sporadically. I won't be saying 'you're using it wrong' but I presume different ways of use or app workload can make a big difference.

Sometimes you go help a person who complains about such things, and they have instaled 50 obscure off-brand apps, all kinds of browser extensions, kexts, background services, crapware, and so on, and the system is like a zoo.

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

#98

Long ranty post. I'll use the occasion to crap on macOS because yes, I experienced this, not to mention random devices disconnecting in conditions of higher memory pressure (i.e. starting a k8s cluster and doing tests, then tearing it down, then starting another etc.) -- one time even my keyboard disconnected which was annoying to say the least. To this day my $300 dock sometimes doesn't at all get detected after I w…

I’m lucky my current Mac sleeps well, but in the past I’ve resorted to sleeping the display only (and never sleeping the Mac itself) when I’ve had wake from sleep issues.

The additional power and heat is incredibly small in the long run, and without spinning rust it likely even extends the life as it doesn’t have cool/heat cycles.

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

#99
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The default microphone is set to another microphone. I can assure you that I didn't have this issue in Linux. :) There were other issues, of course, but they were at least solvable.

Most conferencing applications or sites use a separate 'preferred' microphone and select that one.

I'll look into if it has something to do with that. Thanks for the tip

Re: Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years

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post #96
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That has (since forever) been covered with a Settings toggle. Keyboard -> Input Sources [edit] -> Automatically switch to a document's input source. Checking it maintains different "active input source memory" per app. Unchecking it keeps a global "active input source".

This only works if the next app has a text input in focus.

Not sure what you mean.

With this setting, I never have to "switch back to the default language", it only switches when I explicitly do so with a "next input source" keyboard shortcut.

Regardless if the "next app has a text input in focus" or not, the language I have set (english or my local one), sticks when I change apps.

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