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Re: Niagara Launcher

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Niagara has been my go-to Android launcher for several years now. I would certainly recommend at least giving it a shot!

Same! Black background, with only a few pinned apps, and replacing the clock with the "At a Glance" widget. Simple simplicity. Apps: - Kiwi Browser (Ad Blocking) - Messages - Signal (Might get replaced by Beeper) - Discord - YouTube - Phone YouTube Music is set as my music app, so that appears whenever I've got headphones connected.

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Re: Niagara Launcher

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https://help.niagaralauncher.app/article/27-privacy-policy > Personal Data collected: Cookies, unique device identifiers, Usage Data and IDs (package names) from installed apps. It sends a unique device identifier, your IP address and your app usage to Firebase. I understand why the developer would want crash reports but he gathers a lot of data on users.

Niagara Launcher dev here - that's a valid concern, especially since launcher apps have access to a lot of personal data. We have created a document that outlines why we collect the data we do: https://help.niagaralauncher.app/article/109-privacy-policy-... . In short, we only collect data to power our features, verify if the user owns our premium version, improve our app, and for public research and statistics. If y…

I believe in the good intentions of you and the team, but my advice here is to build a data management and retention process to be future proof.

What it means is you create a policy of non-ad-value data collection and very short identifiable data retention to avoid a future change of hearts (maybe you get big and acquired, maybe you bring a Zuckerberg to the team...who knows).

By doing this you not only protect the users data but you help the community trust your good intentions.

Re: Niagara Launcher

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Honestly it's the one thing I don't miss about Android. I always felt compelled to tinker with things a lot more than I should've.

Yeah, and equal time spent futzing with your launcher is better spent tinkering with a raspberry pi or similar. At least then you may develop a skill. Android customization is sort of like junk food - enjoyable in the moment, but not meaningfully improving your life.

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Re: Niagara Launcher

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Niagara Launcher dev here - that's a valid concern, especially since launcher apps have access to a lot of personal data. We have created a document that outlines why we collect the data we do: https://help.niagaralauncher.app/article/109-privacy-policy-... . In short, we only collect data to power our features, verify if the user owns our premium version, improve our app, and for public research and statistics. If y…

I believe in the good intentions of you and the team, but my advice here is to build a data management and retention process to be future proof. What it means is you create a policy of non-ad-value data collection and very short identifiable data retention to avoid a future change of hearts (maybe you get big and acquired, maybe you bring a Zuckerberg to the team...who knows). By doing this you not only protect the u…

Good point. We use Firebase/Google Analytics for basic analytics (e.g., to analyze what features of Niagara Launcher are used the most and capture crashes). More sensitive data (e.g., the history of app launches if the user opts into our Digital Wellbeing Initiative) is only sent to our servers, hosted by Hetzner, to have complete control over the data. We delete it after 90 days. I don't know the retention periods of the Firebase and Google Analytics products off the top of my head; I'll discuss with our team how long they are and if anything persists longer than necessary. I'll also update the linked article afterward - thanks for the tip!

Re: Niagara Launcher

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Honestly it's the one thing I don't miss about Android. I always felt compelled to tinker with things a lot more than I should've.

Yeah, and equal time spent futzing with your launcher is better spent tinkering with a raspberry pi or similar. At least then you may develop a skill. Android customization is sort of like junk food - enjoyable in the moment, but not meaningfully improving your life.

That may be true for purely decorative skinning for some people (although personally I enjoy using interfaces more when they have excellent visual design, iconography, layout and consistency). However interface customization can go far beyond aesthetic visuals to adding functions, default behaviors and time-saving shortcuts, improving interface hierarchy and surfacing frequently used options. Another key area is speeding up navigation by hiding unused things and increasing legibility with better UI density and typography. I find these kinds of customizations do meaningfully improve usage efficiency and utility, making a real difference on devices I use constantly.

For instance, taking control of my phone's three physical buttons with custom double-press and long-press actions that are contextual is so useful I can't imagine using a phone without it. I've also added a custom contextual action to double-tapping the back of my phone that I use constantly. This uses the phone's accelerometer and, surprisingly, works perfectly with no false positives. I use my phone a lot for reading e-books, controlling home automation, photography and other use cases where I'm switching between portrait and landscape modes frequently. Customizing automatic screen rotation to be per app, by time of day and even by location is another one of those seemingly little things that's just so nice in constant daily usage.

Some people argue all these things should just be built-in to phones and "it's a bug" the designers didn't just set-up everything "correctly" in the first place. But the reality is people have different innate preferences about some kinds of usage modes and defaults. For example, I'm highly spatial vs my wife who's very sequential. She prefers contextually adaptive "smart" interfaces that change to list the most likely options first. She can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want that. However, my brain expects stuff to be in the same place it was last time and it throws me when things keep moving around. I think this is more than just a preference or learned behavior, it's an innate trait like handedness. While people can force themselves to adapt across this divide, it will always be uncomfortable and slower.

Then there there is the current UX design obsession with "simplifying" interfaces by removing features, reducing density and increasing the remaining spacing and typography sizes to the point of, IMHO, insanity. This is another reason when it comes to devices I'll use constantly, I consciously choose those I can significantly customize and adapt (eg Android, Windows, Linux, Firefox, etc). Of course, I don't customize every use case. What matters is having the option to do so for those usages which make a meaningful difference to me.

Re: Niagara Launcher

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kiss is pure shit when you first install it. but if you take the time to set it up, it's like vim/emacs. things start to make sense

I think it worked fine for me with basically no setup, so I'm curious: what kind of setup did it require for you?

not hiding status bar (it's the freaking home screen!)

showing keyboard right away. sortin etc. different icons for contacts.

still missing fuzzy match

Re: Niagara Launcher

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Tried using it on tablet some time ago. Felt handicapped comparing to Nova Launcher, some useful stuff was locked behind premium. Instead of nice easy to use app grid you have unbearable list where all apps grouped by letters and you have to manually choose certain letter to see what apps available there. The only positive thing about that launcher is that it helped me localize issue with lagging wallpapers but after that I happily deleted it.

Re: Niagara Launcher

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe in the good intentions of you and the team, but my advice here is to build a data management and retention process to be future proof. What it means is you create a policy of non-ad-value data collection and very short identifiable data retention to avoid a future change of hearts (maybe you get big and acquired, maybe you bring a Zuckerberg to the team...who knows). By doing this you not only protect the u…

Good point. We use Firebase/Google Analytics for basic analytics (e.g., to analyze what features of Niagara Launcher are used the most and capture crashes). More sensitive data (e.g., the history of app launches if the user opts into our Digital Wellbeing Initiative) is only sent to our servers, hosted by Hetzner, to have complete control over the data. We delete it after 90 days. I don't know the retention periods o…

Good practice, just need to make it known.

Keep up the good work, I've used Niagara when I was at Android (on iOS now by my firm Rules) and I found it a very good value prop with an polished execution.

Re: Niagara Launcher

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Niagara on the Fold is a wonderful pairing honestly.

i never even thought about niagra on a folding phone, that actually sounds like it'd be great! i've been using it on a "regular" phone for the past year or 2 and honestly now i'm curious how it feels on a fold, and what kind of extra features the extra real estate could give. temptin me to go buy a folding phone next upgrade around :D

Re: Niagara Launcher

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Niagara on the Fold is a wonderful pairing honestly.

i never even thought about niagra on a folding phone, that actually sounds like it'd be great! i've been using it on a "regular" phone for the past year or 2 and honestly now i'm curious how it feels on a fold, and what kind of extra features the extra real estate could give. temptin me to go buy a folding phone next upgrade around :D

Niagara splits into two columns for all of its lists. Otherwise the experience is the same, and it's really clean.
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