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Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by jojobas »

KronisLV wrote: post #71
jojobas wrote: post #37

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Because your average Joe doesn't know the difference and the race to the bottom affects everyone.

> Because your average Joe doesn't know the difference and the race to the bottom affects everyone. Would it be possible that the average Joe is more familiar with a web stack vs a native or cross platform desktop stack? Is it not possible that the difference therefore might be between: - having a questionably performing app built on web technologies - vs a buggy one that's built on a native/cross-platform stack, or…

Your notion that browser-based apps are somehow bug-free is absurd.

Skype on Linux, for one, keeps the microphone open after a call, forever.

The issue has been known for more than 2 years.

I'd say Electron adds no value with respect to fighting bugs other than containing the consequences in the browser sandbox.

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by StimDeck »

sanxiyn wrote: post #55
ezst wrote: post #51

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Because somehow 20 years old WebKit/KHTML bugs are better than 20 years old gecko bugs?

People arguing this usually mean they want to deal with only one set of bugs, and since Chrome won't die, Firefox must die.

And everyone forgetting some people still support IE in the process.

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by wolpoli »

hulitu wrote: post #89
incrudible wrote: post #57

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Eight Megabytes and Constantly Swapping. This too, shall pass. The minimum amount of memory for a double buffered fullscreen surface at 8bpc on a 4k monitor is 48MB. RAM is meant to be used, and if it was not for memory hogs, the DRAM industry would be a decade behind where it is today.

> RAM is meant to be used, Some of us have to run other programs besides Teams. /s

Yes, I also happened to run a browser which shares the same philosophy on RAM.

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by tadfisher »

coolelectronics wrote: post #86
thinkingemote wrote: post #13

I would like to see Positron rebooted. Positron is to Firefox what electron is to chromium. https://mykzilla.org/2017/03/08/positron-discontinued/

why? firefox performance will always be worse than blink, if only because of spidermonkey the last thing people want from electron is a worse version of it hogging more resources

I don't think SpiderMonkey is the boat anchor you claim it to be: https://arewefastyet.com/linux64/benchmarks/overview

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by postalrat »

jojobas wrote: post #30
thinkingemote wrote: post #13

I would like to see Positron rebooted. Positron is to Firefox what electron is to chromium. https://mykzilla.org/2017/03/08/positron-discontinued/

Yeah, it's an awesome idea to waste few hundred megabytes of RAM to run your app. This browser-in-a-box cancer needs to die a painful death.

Make a better alternative and people will flock to it.

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by postalrat »

jojobas wrote: post #44
diath wrote: post #39

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Until there's a viable solution for desktop native GUI, this trend will continue.

Native UI has been there for decades before. Yes, cross-platform requires extra effort. Hell even Wine is more efficient an approach for cross-platform distribution.

extra effort = no less than 50x the effort

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by jojobas »

postalrat wrote: post #96
jojobas wrote: post #44

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Native UI has been there for decades before. Yes, cross-platform requires extra effort. Hell even Wine is more efficient an approach for cross-platform distribution.

extra effort = no less than 50x the effort

Bullshit. If that's what it takes you please seek another line of work.

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by postalrat »

jojobas wrote: post #98
postalrat wrote: post #96

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extra effort = no less than 50x the effort

Bullshit. If that's what it takes you please seek another line of work.

I can built a basic app with html, javascript, etc that supports many platforms in an evening. How long do you think it would take to support windows, macos, ios, android, xbox, linux, etc, etc? Much more than 50x the time even if you already are familiar with development on all the plaforms.

Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot

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Post by jojobas »

postalrat wrote: post #99
jojobas wrote: post #98

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Bullshit. If that's what it takes you please seek another line of work.

I can built a basic app with html, javascript, etc that supports many platforms in an evening. How long do you think it would take to support windows, macos, ios, android, xbox, linux, etc, etc? Much more than 50x the time even if you already are familiar with development on all the plaforms.

Qt covers 5 of the 6 platforms you named, and many more "etc".

Yes it takes a bit more than a boot camp graduate to code that, and might take a bit more time still.

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