Tried reading the article, but couldn't figure out what's the difference between side by side and french style. Tried looking online but it didn't help me either
Goodbye non-KISS appliances
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Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances
#92Appliance engineers probably have their equivalent of "Kubernetes and SPA used for no good reason at all and now we can't focus on the actual features"
Except the features are more there to sell fridges. The lifestyle of making instant ice for your guests etc.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fridge/freezer one is handy for temperature and door open alarms
Why? Just close the door properly. Ajust the feet so the fridge stands on a slight angle, so the door swings shut on it's own. What help is a temperature alarm if you are away. A fridge is used daily, surely you'll notice if the temperature is not what it's supposed to be.
I really have no idea how to reply to this without sounding like an ass so apologies in advance.
Well yeah duh if the door was shut properly every time fridges wouldn't need door or temperature alarms at all (most have an audible one already). But it's called an alarm for a reason, sometimes shit goes wrong and it's handy to know before all the food has been at room temperature all day. We had a freezer door pop open overnight once, because one of the drawers wasn't quite shut properly... in 40+ years of interacting with a fridge/freezer, yes occasionally mistakes are made
I also have friends and family and at least one will be aware and be willing to go to the house if necessary when we are away (only happened once when our intruder alarm went off for no apparent reason) and my neighbours would also pop in if I was at work.
Seriously your response showed such a lack of thinking of real world situations and usage I can only assume you work for the Google UI team or something
Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances
#94Appliance engineers probably have their equivalent of "Kubernetes and SPA used for no good reason at all and now we can't focus on the actual features"
It's more cost cutting and using the same cheap fans, capacitors, relays, etc in the base models as the top-of-the-line models.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I agree. I'm not a luddite per se - heck, I make a living out of making stuff talk to one another on a network. But I don't get the appeal, from a customer standpoint, of having all physical objects talk to you or to the Internet. Like, why? I get it when it comes to alarm systems. Being able to get a notification when someone breaks in is nice, because the alarm system is mostly doing its job when you're not at…
Fridge/freezer one is handy for temperature and door open alarms
A simple switch and a buzzer is all there is to it. Has existed for several decades.
Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances
#96In France, we have a name for French-door fridges, it's American fridges...
Like the “Vietnam” War
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#97Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances
#98In France, we have a name for French-door fridges, it's American fridges...
It seem even funnier. From my research. The "side by side" standard US frige is what we call in France American fridge because it has two door and look so oversized and fancy compared to the standard fridge in france. The US "french-door fridge" take the oversizing a step further by adding a third door on the bottom of the "side by side" design. We don't even have a name for theses fridges as nobody buy theses, so I…
I wonder if EU fridges are smaller because people buy food more frequently, but in smaller quantities. Because the grocery shops are closer.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the garbage disposal, I've heard that water treatment facility managers hate them (or at least one does), because it encourages people to put through food waste. I've also heard landlords say garbage disposals are a net-negative for maintenance visits: disposal-related problems are more costly than the occasional clog because someone put down something the disposal would've stopped. Also, in multi-tenant buildings…
> garbage disposal ... encourages people to put through food waste That's like saying bicycles encourage people to ride bicycles. It's supposed to encourage it. That's the literal purpose of a garbage disposal unit: " a device that shreds food waste into pieces small enough—generally less than 2 mm (0.079 in) in diameter—to pass through plumbing. "[1] > Some people create blockages for the entire stack or more I don'…
I have repeated, traumatic, first-hand experience with this: food waste accumulates in building pipe bends and joints and such, causing blockages and follow-on effects worse than one would guess.
And the disposal, and myths about what's good to put down the pipes, means a lot of people put that food waste down there.
I don't know the original reason for the adoption of disposals, but smells like it could be corporate lobbying to create a market for a product:
> In many cities in the United States in the 1930s and the 1940s, the municipal sewage system had regulations prohibiting placing food waste (garbage) into the system.[5] InSinkErator spent considerable effort, and was highly successful in convincing many localities to rescind these prohibitions.[6]
Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances
#100Are french door fridges "not simple"?
I've had one for ten years and it didn't have any issues, and I didn't buy a premium model either (no ice machine on the top door tho).
But a friend of mine has a new one and it has the issues of the heat exchanger freezing due to bad insulation or something.
I feel it's not that these things are very complicated, as much as the fact that it's a market for lemons.