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Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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> For example, Apple’s decision to allow alternative browser engines is only effective in the EU. And don't forget it's been done in the most painful way possible. Yet, I've not seen any reports from Mozilla about ios' practices over the past decades, or the after.

And don’t forget Apple’s restriction on alternative browser engines in iOS and iPadOS is the only thing keeping most websites from becoming Chrome only.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#92
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching I've been seeing this sentiment since 2001 at least. No one ever follows through; if they did we would have seen this already in the desktop stats. You will, whether you consciously realise it or not, switch to playing windows exclusive games the minute all your games run on Linux, hence you will never switch.

>I've been seeing this sentiment since 2001 at least. No one ever follows through; if they did we would have seen this already in the desktop stats. There has been an inflection point crossed lately, because of Proton and the Steam Deck. Linux is at 1.95% market share on Steam today. A year ago it was 1.3%.

As I pointed out to another reply, this fact is not relevant to the point I made.

You may as well say "but the sky is blue", which is also true and just as irrelevant

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#93
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Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

WSL2, power toys and hands down the best window management of any OS, I hate working on my MBP just due to the difficulty of managing different windows and aligning them on the same desktop.

power toys is buggy. It has had this bug that shows on non-US keyboard layouts, and of course it will never be fixed because who cares about non-US keyboard layouts?

Meanwhile on KDE I have an easy option to swap caps lock and ctrl, without having to install some weird .exe file off github.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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post #55

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The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching that horrible "does it all, but poorly" corporation.

How recently have you tried. Obviously YMMV, but all mine already are. Proton is a thing of beauty.

Microsoft kicks me from online play if I use proton… Coincidence?

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#95

> For example, Apple’s decision to allow alternative browser engines is only effective in the EU. And don't forget it's been done in the most painful way possible. Yet, I've not seen any reports from Mozilla about ios' practices over the past decades, or the after.

Mozilla probably cares more about the Chrome/Blink hegemony than Safari. If not for iOS requirements inflating Safari market share the browser market would be at least 90% Chrome or a Chrome derivative.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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That was the “Windows 95” lineage. NT was solid from the start (which is why MS then also made it the basis for XP).

NT was far more resource-demanding (i.e. "sluggish") than 9x due to all the abstractions - it's just the hardware that progressed so fast in a few years that it was kind of irrelevant.

That's true, NT was much more resource demanding but there were other mitigating factors too. Drivers were either inefficient and or badly written, the video driver imposed inflexible rules on software's access to the underlying hardware and its plug-and-play feature was brain-dead from the outset. Most of these problems weren't fixed until Windows 2000.

Incidentally, I've always thought W2K—taken all round—as the best version of Windows, it's the version with minimal dross and useless stuff and MS hadn't got into spying on users by that stage.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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yeah Mozilla never complains about harmful design on chromebooks. Strange!

I mean, yes, Google pays Mozilla. But also, Chromebooks are barely relevant compared to Windows.

If they were a non-biased actor they would commission a study across all systems, not just what's convenient for them and Google. They are more and more ridiculous by the day and deserve their tiny market share.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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post #26

Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

WSL2, power toys and hands down the best window management of any OS, I hate working on my MBP just due to the difficulty of managing different windows and aligning them on the same desktop.

Probably seems weird to you, but I've never got on with the Windows UI. There's too many things that steal focus. I've been XFCE for too many years now, but it doesn't change significantly that I find I have to invest time learning what's changed.

There used to be a 'tile windows' since windows 2.0 or something like that, but it did just that, splatted the windows to take up all the space.

One thing I like about X11 and Windows doesn't do it, is alt-dragging from anywhere in the window, last time I used Windows you couldn't move things around by holding alt and left clicking anywhere, you could only do that from the title bar, which means you can't slide the top of the window off the screen.

The other major thing for me is selection copy, if you highlight text, you can't middle mouse button to paste it, you have to ctrl-c first, which is just more steps.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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post #26

Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

It’s weird right? 1. keeps me firmly on the platform, I find it a delight how often things “just work”. Run a linux app? Just works. Hook up some niche 15yo printer? Just works. Run a game/demo made 20 years ago? Just works. Even MS Paint very much still just works. It all just works and then the perfectly good Mail app is forcing my mom to switch to the new Outlook, which is Mail, but messier, with ads. What? I wish…

Game made 30 years ago needs dosbox, an open source project, to just work.

Game made with directx6 20 years ago will render in CPU and just work but be so slow to be unplayable. Then you need to replace the .dll and make it link with an open source library that reimplements dx and converts the calls to the new API, so that it can actually render in hardware.

Yes, solitaire.exe still works. 3d games less so.

I'm full of games like star wars jedi outcast or so that no longer work on windows.

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