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Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by imiric »

brabel wrote: post #77
imiric wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So a corporation acquired the platform you enjoyed using, and corrupted the user experience so much that it forced you to pay them to get the old UX back, and... you're happy about it? Sounds like Stockholm syndrome, to be honest, with Google laughing all the way to the bank.

I think running the biggest video platform on the planet entirely for free is not realistic. Why are you so against Google charging a minimum fee for doing that while still giving you the opportunity to watch for free in exchange for being shown a few ads? Do you think they should be run as a charity?

> Why are you so against Google charging a minimum fee for doing that while still giving you the opportunity to watch for free in exchange for being shown a few ads?

I'm against it because advertising is not the only business model that works at scale. Google effectively introduced itself as a middleman between content creators and consumers, which they continue to do whether you pay with your attention/data or cash.

I happily support content creators who don't rely on advertising or Google itself. I just refuse to be forced into a corrupt business model.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by imiric »

charcircuit wrote: post #81
imiric wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So a corporation acquired the platform you enjoyed using, and corrupted the user experience so much that it forced you to pay them to get the old UX back, and... you're happy about it? Sounds like Stockholm syndrome, to be honest, with Google laughing all the way to the bank.

No ads is not sustainable. It's not like the alternative is youtube remaining ad free. The alternative is youtube shutting down.

That's a false dichotomy. There are many monetizing alternatives besides advertising, or paying the platform to remove advertising they introduced in the first place.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by erk__ »

spiderice wrote: post #20
zyang wrote: post #18

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I have a feeling is going to be a speedrun of the reddit saga. Google obviously doesn't want a smooth youtube experience on vision pro.

Why is that? Obviously they don’t want a third party app to be that experience, but they make native apps for everything else. Also, Christian can’t help himself but attach his apps to large companies that can cut him off overnight. Haha.

A example would be Windows phone where they just not only did not make a YouTube app they denied access to the YouTube app made by Microsoft.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by jdoss »

imiric wrote: post #92
charcircuit wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No ads is not sustainable. It's not like the alternative is youtube remaining ad free. The alternative is youtube shutting down.

That's a false dichotomy. There are many monetizing alternatives besides advertising, or paying the platform to remove advertising they introduced in the first place.

OK, I'll bite. What are some alternatives besides advertising or paying a fee to get no Ads?

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by nntwozz »

If you're into self-hosting there is https://github.com/iv-org/invidious which works great with https://github.com/yattee/yattee for macOS/iOS/tvOS.

This combo is amazing, haven't looked back ever since I deployed it with docker.

Hopefully Yattee will make a native visionOS app in the future.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by charcircuit »

imiric wrote: post #92
charcircuit wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No ads is not sustainable. It's not like the alternative is youtube remaining ad free. The alternative is youtube shutting down.

That's a false dichotomy. There are many monetizing alternatives besides advertising, or paying the platform to remove advertising they introduced in the first place.

With keeping the same old UX yes it is. What YouTube offers for free is very generous. There is unlimited uploads. The high resolution options are free. The site is not behind a paywall. You can make an infinite amount of playlists which each have an unlimited size. You can have unlimited tabs open. Videos get automatic transcriptions, subtitles, and translations. Your streaming does not get throttled. Every user gets their own personalized feed. etc

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by neurostimulant »

m3kw9 wrote: post #33

Why do this when YouTube would have one eventually? This isn’t like Reddit client, I’ve never heard of a 3rd party YouTube client. Is he doing it for fun or just to get the initial impatient $$ before YouTube shows up?

> I’ve never heard of a 3rd party YouTube client.

There are plenty of cool 3rd party youtube clients. SmartTube, NewPipe and Invidious come to mind. Youtube Revanced could be considered as 3rd party youtube client as well.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by hunter2_ »

shiroiuma wrote: post #74
Kwpolska wrote: post #69

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You can get rid of the ads on YouTube by paying 0.4% of the Vision Pro base model price per month.

That does nothing for all the "sponsor segments" embedded in the videos.

Try sponsorblock, or stn which includes it.
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