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Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by cqqxo4zV46cp »

Jedd wrote: post #69
ziml77 wrote: post #68

I wouldn't have realized this issue if a coworker wasn't looking at my screen, seeing the messages they had sent 10 minutes prior just popping up. There was no way I could have known they were late because the timestamps in Teams were the time I received the messages instead of the time the messages were sent. On his end there was also nothing indicating that there was a delivery problem. At the very least Microsoft…

How would that work? You'd get an in-app message in 40 minutes saying there's a problem 40 minutes ago? Anyway, this is what status pages are for: https://admin.microsoft.com/servicestatus (currently showing a whole lotta information about problems with Microsoft Teams).

Status pages are nerd tools. Anyone that says otherwise is living in a bubble. Pretending momentarily that this is not true, you wouldn’t go to a status page if you thought that everything was fine. Not sure what is warranting such a kneejerk defence…

The implication is that the infra required to notify of an outage is lesser/different than what’s required to…run Teams. Publish it on DNS!

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by willj »

peteradio wrote: post #79
ziml77 wrote: post #68

I wouldn't have realized this issue if a coworker wasn't looking at my screen, seeing the messages they had sent 10 minutes prior just popping up. There was no way I could have known they were late because the timestamps in Teams were the time I received the messages instead of the time the messages were sent. On his end there was also nothing indicating that there was a delivery problem. At the very least Microsoft…

I think messages need to show sent time and received time. I had basically the opposite issue recently: 1:23 Coworker: Hello 1:24 Me: Hello [20 minutes elapse] 1:44 Me: Did you need something? [No notifications until leave for the day] [Checks back hours later and the conversation appears as] 1:23 Coworker: Hello 1:24 Me: Hello 1:25 Coworker: Could you herp the derp? 1:30 Coworker: Nm got Mo to herp the derp. 1:44 Me…

That makes me think of this: https://nohello.net/en/

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

#93

Post by maronato »

krisoft wrote: post #65
easton wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And those places use it because it’s free. You’re already paying for Exchange or Office, so Teams comes free. Nobody believes it’s the best product, but it’s 70% as good as Slack for free.

You are absolutely right. To me this kind of bundling is absolutely infuriating. I wish we could literally outlaw it. At work we just transfered from zoom to google meet. We did this while everyone who expressed an opinion agreed that zoom is simply a superior product. And we did it because “we are already paying for it with our google docs subscription”. It is just so anti-competitive I can’t even believe we collect…

I don’t see how it’s anticompetitive. It’s not like Microsoft or Google make it harder to use Slack or Zoom.

In fact, Google makes it really easy to integrate Zoom into Google calendar, and Microsoft has slack integrations for all their products. One can even argue that the office experience in slack is better than in Teams.

That’s very pro-competition IMO.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by logbiscuitswave »

JohnFen wrote: post #26
nerdjon wrote: post #7

What I find most interesting about this is how long it took to see reporting on this issue, unlike what I remember the reporting on Slack being down 5 or 6 years ago that I could fairly reliably find somewhere that said it was down. Has how we used these tools just changed? They are so janky in the first place that them being "down" is questionably different? Just seems weird.

Personally, I just expect Teams to be janky. At least where I work, I don't think that a day goes by that it doesn't glitch out in one way or another.

A million times this. Things seemed more broken than usual in Teams for me today like image attachments not working and such. I just figured it was Teams being Teams until someone informed me there was a service outage degrading things. That’s how low the bar is.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by logbiscuitswave »

addicted wrote: post #90
Vigorosotuna96 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spot on analysis. It's a broken product, most of the time, for me.

Every week I face a new issue with Teams because every week MS will push a silent update which will invariably fix one thing but break another.

The best is when those “silent updates” restart Teams while you are in the middle of using it.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by Log_out_ »

cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #91
Jedd wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would that work? You'd get an in-app message in 40 minutes saying there's a problem 40 minutes ago? Anyway, this is what status pages are for: https://admin.microsoft.com/servicestatus (currently showing a whole lotta information about problems with Microsoft Teams).

Status pages are nerd tools. Anyone that says otherwise is living in a bubble. Pretending momentarily that this is not true, you wouldn’t go to a status page if you thought that everything was fine. Not sure what is warranting such a kneejerk defence… The implication is that the infra required to notify of an outage is lesser/different than what’s required to…run Teams. Publish it on DNS!

This generation will reinvent the watchdog..

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by earthling8118 »

stagger87 wrote: post #11
a_vanderbilt wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one noticing it is down because it usually isn't working anyways.

It's always interesting to hear others experiences. I've used Teams for 4+ years now with zero issues until this morning. I'm only mad in that I tried troubleshooting my PC and network connection for far too long before seeing this thread.

I've been using it for about as long as it has existed and it's never been anything but trouble. Every step of the way. It's an absolute abomination.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by [deleted] »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #43
robertlagrant wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People seem much harsher on Slack, for some reason. Sometimes being the better product just means people notice when it's broken.

Is there a term for how people just kind of acclimatise to a broken, buggy tool, and don’t realise when it’s extra broken? A sort of software Stockholm syndrome?

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Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

technick wrote: post #50

I got my first taste of teams about a month ago. I had to install it on my personal laptop for a job interview. After installation, my laptop started displaying notifications encouraging me to renew my monthly subscriptions to Microsoft Office and Xbox Game Pass, things I haven't had a subscription for in over a year. It automatically set itself to start up with the computer which isn't unexpected. However I disabled…

> I had to install it on my personal laptop for a job interview.

I could use the browser version for that.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by prepend »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #99
technick wrote: post #50

I got my first taste of teams about a month ago. I had to install it on my personal laptop for a job interview. After installation, my laptop started displaying notifications encouraging me to renew my monthly subscriptions to Microsoft Office and Xbox Game Pass, things I haven't had a subscription for in over a year. It automatically set itself to start up with the computer which isn't unexpected. However I disabled…

> I had to install it on my personal laptop for a job interview. I could use the browser version for that.

Teams is buggy and the native client is less buggy than the browser version.

Also, the browser version doesn’t have all the features of the native.

So if I’m in an interview, I want to make sure that as much as possible works. If I was just joining a conference call or something I would use the browser.

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