Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

Post by Apocryphon » Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 4:03 AM UTC

RespectYourself wrote: post #85

Fezzik wrote: post #76

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I take the opposite approach - any spider I see inside, even Black Widows, I carry outside in a cup. At least they then have a chance. And Widows will do their level best to nest somewhere far out-of-site and never bother you. I also encourage my neighbors to not sterilize around their houses with industrial bug spray because spiders and bugs are 99,999/100,000, nothing but beneficial.

Same. It can get tiresome in CA though! I'll take widows over recluses any day. On the one occasion where I found an infestation too extensive to relocate (under almost every one of my outdoor chairs), I tried bug spray. Horrible. Thanks to CA's hysterical bans on everything, the spray is ineffective and merely tortures the spiders and often leaves them alive but maimed. I felt terrible. Never again.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 4:05 AM UTC

RespectYourself wrote: post #85

Fezzik wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take the opposite approach - any spider I see inside, even Black Widows, I carry outside in a cup. At least they then have a chance. And Widows will do their level best to nest somewhere far out-of-site and never bother you. I also encourage my neighbors to not sterilize around their houses with industrial bug spray because spiders and bugs are 99,999/100,000, nothing but beneficial.

Same. It can get tiresome in CA though! I'll take widows over recluses any day. On the one occasion where I found an infestation too extensive to relocate (under almost every one of my outdoor chairs), I tried bug spray. Horrible. Thanks to CA's hysterical bans on everything, the spray is ineffective and merely tortures the spiders and often leaves them alive but maimed. I felt terrible. Never again.

Post by samatman » Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 4:07 AM UTC

rafaelero wrote: post #57

ChatGTP wrote: post #49

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Alan Watts used to say, it's ok to eat plants and animals, as long as when you cook them, you make something beautiful out of them to respect their sacrifice. It's the least you can do. I feel there is some truth to this. Eventually, your body will be consumed by insects.

I don't think those beings that were killed care about that.

Post by I_am_tiberius » Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 4:24 AM UTC

jjackson5324 wrote: post #55

adriand wrote: post #11

I forget who said this or exactly what they said, but someone has pointed out that the more research humans conduct the more we find that animals and even plants are more complex, more intelligent and more sophisticated than we thought. It is worth keeping this in mind the next time someone tells you a small creature (perhaps a crustacean) cannot feel or think or do something that would mean we ought to be less cruel…

That's great, but if I ever see a jumping spider in my house then I will not hesitate to murder it in cold blood.

Post by oh_sigh » Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 4:37 AM UTC

Apocryphon wrote: post #75

gingerrr wrote: post #66

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That's so sad. I'm pretty militantly anti-spider but jumping spiders, despite seeming like they were sent from hell to terrify us, are just little furry big-eyed arthro-bros

Then why do our genetic memories compel us to be terrified of them