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I believe a share of revenue is not uncommon in shopping mall leases. e.g.: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/clb-percentage-rent....
How are those mall leases doing these days?
Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
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Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
#92Apple must allow alternate payment modes without imposing a gatekeeper tax. It must be consistent without exceptions (i.e. not just Amazon). The issue is not the gratuitous fee, it is the lack of choice. iOS is more ubiquitous than macOS yet more restrictive--it cannot last. This entitlement is so restrictive -- it just seems vindictive. Apple's market share and success means additional responsibility. The argument t…
I will risk an avalanche of downvotes and steel man Apple's argument. :) Have you ever gotten stuck with a monthly fee for something that's hard to cancel? It's a real pain the butt, no? But that never really happens on Apple devices, because Apple makes it incredibly easy to cancel subscriptions. You don't have to call anyone, you don't have to struggle with a bad website -- you just click cancel on your phone and i…
The main argument that you buy Apple because you can trust the payment system doesn't really go against the anticompetitive argument Epic is making.
Re Android:
* Android has the same 30% fee * Android controls the Play Store IAPs (dark patterns) almost identically to Apple
- Mobile dev of 3 years
Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
#93Apple must allow alternate payment modes without imposing a gatekeeper tax. It must be consistent without exceptions (i.e. not just Amazon). The issue is not the gratuitous fee, it is the lack of choice. iOS is more ubiquitous than macOS yet more restrictive--it cannot last. This entitlement is so restrictive -- it just seems vindictive. Apple's market share and success means additional responsibility. The argument t…
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Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
#94Apple must allow alternate payment modes without imposing a gatekeeper tax. It must be consistent without exceptions (i.e. not just Amazon). The issue is not the gratuitous fee, it is the lack of choice. iOS is more ubiquitous than macOS yet more restrictive--it cannot last. This entitlement is so restrictive -- it just seems vindictive. Apple's market share and success means additional responsibility. The argument t…
They have loyal devs and a monetizable ecosystem for devs exactly because they have their policies in place. Apple doesn’t cut corners with short term thinking like your comment.
What corners are being cut?
Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because iOS apps talk to the Notarisation Service on launch. So they know total app installs as well as the installs purchased from the App Store.
But how does it know I bought 13 tokens for $20, or 100 tokens for $149 (best value!)? If the account balance is on the application server side.
The developer has to agree to allow Apple to audit them.
Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple isn't forced to host anything. Console manufacturers shouldn't be allowed to extract those fees either.
No one is forced to sell on Apple either, if that's your logic.
Especially since they aren't the biggest mobile OS as Android fans like to point out. It's only a problem because iOS has most of the mobile profits.
Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
#98Apple's fees are too high, and I also don't find this particularly persuasive. - Apple charges a ~30% fee to publish on their store. It's a high fee! I also understand people make money there (more than on stores with lower fees). - Apple also has a pretty sophisticated set of financial products you can use through your account with them. It makes sense you wouldn't be able to use those in the same with with another…
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Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
#99Apple must allow alternate payment modes without imposing a gatekeeper tax. It must be consistent without exceptions (i.e. not just Amazon). The issue is not the gratuitous fee, it is the lack of choice. iOS is more ubiquitous than macOS yet more restrictive--it cannot last. This entitlement is so restrictive -- it just seems vindictive. Apple's market share and success means additional responsibility. The argument t…
This argument has been repeatedly made over the past 24 hours with a lot of emotion but little justification. The judge forced Apple to unbundle their payments. Apple's solution to that is probably overly restrictive. And I suspect that you're right that 27% is too large a cut to survive. With both of those points granted, though, your argument seems to be that Apple should be obliged to host, distribute, and market…
Other than the fact I spent 1'000$ on my iPhone?
Re: Apple's bad faith 27% tax on web purchases
#100I think what’s missing here is sideloading. The new terms apple set are ridiculous, but it’s their App Store, so whatever. However, this iPhone is my device and I should be able to install whatever app I’d like on it. Without that freedom, Apple has no competition and can set their fees as high as they please.
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