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The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by asylteltine »

peppermint_gum wrote: post #89

One aspect of the spread of LLMs is that we have lost a useful heuristic. Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts. Unfortunately, this doesn't work at all for AI-generated garbage. Its command of the language is perfect - in fact, it's much better than that of most human beings. Anyone can instantly generate superficially coherent posts. You no longer have to hire a co…

That’s true. I thought I missed the internet before ClosedAI ruined it but man, I would love to go back to 2020 internet now. LLM research is going to be the downfall of society in so many ways. Even at a basic level my friend is taking a masters and EVERYONE is using chatgpt for responses. It’s so obvious with the PC way it phrases things and then summarizes it at the end. I hope they just get expelled.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by TrackerFF »

jampekka wrote: post #86

To prevent the impending total enshittification of the Internet we'd probably need e.g. something like cryptographically signing human-generated content with some way of proving humanness. Although nothing like this (or other solutions) is probably gonna materialize. The world, and especially the Internet, is driven by short-term commercial interests, and not-enshittifying things doesn't seem to make enough return on…

I live in Norway, and I've noticed that identification systems like BankID have become ubiquitous - even necessary - if you want to do anything serious on the web.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#93

Post by mint2 »

The post google uses for the feature snippet for the search “best place to fly drones in sf” appears to be misleading inane useless dogshit.

What I’m not sure is whether it’s ai generated, bad quality traditional bot generated, or human content spam generated.

But whatever it is, it fooled google. It hurts to read, each numbered point is similar to this: “S.F. city parks are a great and amazing place to fly. Sf parks are illegal to fly in”

Post link: https://www.kentfaith.com/blog/article_where-can-you-fly-dro...

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#94

Post by oblio »

asylteltine wrote: post #91
peppermint_gum wrote: post #89

One aspect of the spread of LLMs is that we have lost a useful heuristic. Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts. Unfortunately, this doesn't work at all for AI-generated garbage. Its command of the language is perfect - in fact, it's much better than that of most human beings. Anyone can instantly generate superficially coherent posts. You no longer have to hire a co…

That’s true. I thought I missed the internet before ClosedAI ruined it but man, I would love to go back to 2020 internet now. LLM research is going to be the downfall of society in so many ways. Even at a basic level my friend is taking a masters and EVERYONE is using chatgpt for responses. It’s so obvious with the PC way it phrases things and then summarizes it at the end. I hope they just get expelled.

At this rate many exams will just become oral exams :-)

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#96

Post by Cthulhu_ »

macNchz wrote: post #87

Search has been steadily headed this direction for a long time, but recently (in just the last couple of months) I’ve started to notice a big uptick in obvious ChatGPT content in places that have otherwise been less egregiously SEO’d: StackOverflow answers, a real person’s personal Medium blog, comment sections on blogs that have good discussions, Github issues, etc. Unfortunately I have to imagine this is only going…

Before that though, it already felt like a lot of those outlets - blogs, SO, comment sections - were either bot or low-value, almost automatic comments. And of course, low wage content writers who get paid by the word to write "where do I find this item" guides for video game websites, somehow managing to change "it's in this chest in this region" to ten paragraph articles.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by TrackerFF »

novagameco wrote: post #3

This is also known as the dead internet theory, which sounded a bit stupid before 2023: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory > The dead Internet theory is an online conspiracy theory that asserts that the Internet now consists mainly of bot activity and automatically generated content that is manipulated by algorithmic curation, marginalizing organic human activity. Proponents of the theory believe thes…

Even closed platforms like FB is dogshit now.

Click on any story, and the comment section is 80% bots. Doesn't mater if it's serious users like NYT, CNN, or whatever.

I've also noticed a huge uptick in spammy pages and groups that pump out AI generated pictures and stories, with nothing but bots upvoting and commenting the content.

These days I only use FB for private hobby groups, and messenger to talk with friends and family.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by [deleted] »

sgentle wrote: post #62

Susan Blackmore was right. > To help understand the next step we can think of this process as follows: one replicator (genes) built vehicles (plants and animals) for its own propagation. One of these then discovered a new way of copying and diverted much of its resources to doing this instead, creating a new replicator (memes) which then led to new replicating machinery (big-brained humans). Now we can ask whether th…

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Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#100

Post by nunez »

This is an old problem that LLM-generated content only accelerated. LMGTFY died when Google tripled down on growing their ad revenue and adtech dominance and SEO ran rampant throughout search results. It is fairly difficult to get non-biased factual information from a naked query these days, which is why I try to search for info on Reddit first.

This isn't a panacea either given that it's been chock-ful of astroturfed content for the last few years, but older threads from when Reddit was less popular and manipulatable or threads from small communities are usually good bets.

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