I had to throw away my COMPLETELY DRY cord and get a new one because Apple reported the presence of water. New coord -- no problems.
Probably dry, but had short. Definitely good to detect and throw out. Message could definitely be improved.
Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports
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#92FWIW i just looked at the specs online and the iphone 15 pro is rated to IP68 while the ipad-pro and MacBook Air specs are silent on this.
My iPhone 13 mini was IP rated and died after the first dunk. All of my Android Galaxy SXX phones have survived tons worse.. repeatedly. I treat the new iPhone I had to buy as if it were made of porous glass. Edit: Thanks everyone for the additional data points!
I routinely wash my iPhone 13 mini in water, putting it under a running tap and washing all over. I've been doing it for more than two years now, no issues. I've fully submerged it a few times too without issue.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would greatly depend upon the country. Many countries (sans USA probably) have rights of warranty for consumers, that companies policies cannot override.
"rights of warranty" can't be unconditional. If I drop my phone and it breaks or drop laptop in pool, that wouldn't be on the company?
If they decide to go down this path, someone in Australia will report them to the ACCC. If they are using it as an excuse to avoid their warranty obligations, then they will be sorry.
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#94Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
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#95Possibly not related, but my past two Samsungs have had this feature and it drives me crazy. Usually they seem to trigger when using non standard cords and from 0% battery life. This means that I get a very loud warning sound triggering when trying to charge my phone from a battery pack or borrowing someone's cord. Oddly, charging when on (ie not completely dead), this feature doesn't trigger the alarm. I really disl…
I had my S22 upside down in my pocket and happened to splash water directly into the USB port and nowhere else. The precision was honestly kind of impressive. I only knew about it because my phone freaked out. I let it dry overnight rather than charge it, and everything has been good since then.
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#96Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
This is Mac, not iPhone.
Read the first paragraph:
>> Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
How it works (on page 52): "The TPS25751 supports liquid detection by measuring the voltage level across the SBU pins of the Type-C connector. When a short occurs across the SBU pins to another Type-C pin(s), the TPS25751 takes action to protect the the Type-C port by disabling the power paths and notifies the embedded controller when applicable. Once liquid has been detected, the TPS25751 continuously monitors the S…
Dumb question: wouldn't non-conductive liquids be harmless? i.e., the USB port can in theory work even if it is immersed in some non-conductive liquid, no?
But you would need to make sure that the pins still contact though.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder the same. We used to take cell phones not being waterproof as standard. Now everybody expects them to be waterproof. The idea that is single spilled coffee can cause $1000 of damage or more to a laptop is ridiculous.
Spill proof should be possible reasonably. Think pad used to have channels for water drainage not sure they still have them. Dunking proof laptop would be possible but tradeoff not worth it.
They don't; they DON'T still have them. I pestered my department to get me a Lenovo instead of a Dell because I had bought into the reliability hype; one minor water-spill later, my laptop freaked out and since then has permanently degraded performance. See if I get another Lenovo ever again.
But anyway, if you are like me with arm mobility issues and in danger of spilling stuff on your laptop, get some custom made rugged laptop because no manufacturer cares anymore; if anything, they seem to care the other way round.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
How it works (on page 52): "The TPS25751 supports liquid detection by measuring the voltage level across the SBU pins of the Type-C connector. When a short occurs across the SBU pins to another Type-C pin(s), the TPS25751 takes action to protect the the Type-C port by disabling the power paths and notifies the embedded controller when applicable. Once liquid has been detected, the TPS25751 continuously monitors the S…
Does the USB-C specification allow that? Can such devices get USB-C certification? OTOH, I haven't seen any USB certifications on Apple USB cables or devices, so most likely Apple doesn't care.
Although Apple is a board member of USB-IF, at least their cables are indeed not USB-IF certified.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
How it works (on page 52): "The TPS25751 supports liquid detection by measuring the voltage level across the SBU pins of the Type-C connector. When a short occurs across the SBU pins to another Type-C pin(s), the TPS25751 takes action to protect the the Type-C port by disabling the power paths and notifies the embedded controller when applicable. Once liquid has been detected, the TPS25751 continuously monitors the S…
Does the USB-C specification allow that? Can such devices get USB-C certification? OTOH, I haven't seen any USB certifications on Apple USB cables or devices, so most likely Apple doesn't care.
Why would that not be allowed? In isolation, not running power through a short seems like a great safety feature for the hardware.