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Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by ksec »

strongpigeon wrote: post #6

I’m curious about the 2.5 Gbps interface, which isn’t even half the theoretical max of a single connection (~5.6 Gbps) and far from the theoretical AP Max (~36 Gbps). I guess they don’t have any PoE 10Gbps switches. Edit: Turns out they do have one. [0] [0] https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/produc...

You should be able to get 70% of the 5.6Gbps in an ideal situation. 320Mhz Channel with 6Ghz standing in direct line of sight with no obstacle. Roughly 3.92Gbps.

So while I agree with a lot of other comment you will highly unlikely push the 2.5Gbps Ethernet in real world scenario. I would still have love to see it come with 5Gbps Ethernet. Which to be fair still hasn't gotten enough attention.

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by ksec »

mrb wrote: post #77
Aurornis wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You never get close to the theoretical maximum throughput of modern WiFi radios. Check out the review of one of the fastest 6E radios: https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/li... The highest throughput they can get is still short of 2.5G even when combining all three bands, and that's in controlled laboratory conditions. In the real world you'll get much less. 10G wired ethernet is significantly m…

While I generally agree that in the real world you never get close to the theoretical max bandwidth, it is worth pointing out that 7 is significantly faster than 6E, so in laboratory condition you will definitely be limited by the 2.5 GbE bottleneck. With a single MIMO stream WiFi 7 provides 2882 Mbit/s (320 MHz or 160+160 MHz channel, 4096-QAM, 5/6 coding) vs WiFi 6 which provides only 1201 Mbit/s (160 MHz channel,…

Exactly. Really wish the world pushes towards 5Gbps Ethernet instead.

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by ksec »

DannyBee wrote: post #52

It's not even shipping with mlo support, which is a main feature of wifi7 - it's how aggregation works across different bands. Instead it will be released in a future update. Typical ubiquiti. I'm sure the date won't slip and the software won't be buggy or declared beta to dodge complaints for 100 years.

I think there are a few WiFI 7 shipping without MLO. Probably more to do with Qualcomm ( drivers ) than anything else?

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by sedatk »

alphabettsy wrote: post #86
sedatk wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's with their software being riddled with security issues? The only security issue I know about UI is one with that rogue employee leaking their secrets?

Very recent. Users being given access to other users systems. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ubiquiti-user...

Wow, the amount of incompetence to pull that off must be staggering.

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by mikepurvis »

doublepg23 wrote: post #32
mikepurvis wrote: post #8

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As another Unifi home user I've seen little reason to move beyond the 802.11n offerings.

What kind of performance do you get? I have little reason to move to 6/6E from Wifi 5/ac Wave 2 but surely N is a little long in the tooth?

My work computer and the PS4/firetv/etc are all wired anyway. So it's basically just a few phones and lightly-used laptops, none of which are doing anything particularly intense— at most pulling a 1080p Netflix stream. When my partner was doing Twitch, she was also wired.

At the end of the day my home internet is only 100/30, so it just seems silly to upgrade everything for slightly more bandwidth and maybe a bit better stability/recovery/utilization.

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by BizarroLand »

strongpigeon wrote: post #6

I’m curious about the 2.5 Gbps interface, which isn’t even half the theoretical max of a single connection (~5.6 Gbps) and far from the theoretical AP Max (~36 Gbps). I guess they don’t have any PoE 10Gbps switches. Edit: Turns out they do have one. [0] [0] https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/produc...

The AC Pro was Wifi 5 with a theoretical max bandwidth of 1300mbps on a 1gbps connector.

I'm assuming that this speed is its ability to transfer between 2 wifi connected devices in optimal conditions and not transferring files from a NAS to a wifi receiver.

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by BizarroLand »

ksec wrote: post #92
mrb wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I generally agree that in the real world you never get close to the theoretical max bandwidth, it is worth pointing out that 7 is significantly faster than 6E, so in laboratory condition you will definitely be limited by the 2.5 GbE bottleneck. With a single MIMO stream WiFi 7 provides 2882 Mbit/s (320 MHz or 160+160 MHz channel, 4096-QAM, 5/6 coding) vs WiFi 6 which provides only 1201 Mbit/s (160 MHz channel,…

Exactly. Really wish the world pushes towards 5Gbps Ethernet instead.

I run a home lab and I rarely see any advantage between 2.5 and 10g. Not to say that there is none, seeing a large file transfer at 1gbps or more is fun, but the time savings vs the cost just isn't quite there for me yet.

My entire file library is only about 10 TB, and most of that is from ripped DVDs & blurays. My opportunities to transmit or receive more than a gig of data in a single transfer is extremely rare, so it makes little difference to me (and my assumption is by proxy, most users) that it could go ~4 times faster.

For actual business work, though, any lab I set up from the future on will be min-spec to 2.5gig and expected to run 10gig on at least any IT machine/vlan/subnet, whatever.

But for the home consumer, 2.5 is probably 10-50x their home internet connection and more than sufficient for normal daily use.

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by BizarroLand »

latchkey wrote: post #78
strongpigeon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pulling ~600 Mbps with their WiFi 6 offering. Feels like with enough clients on WiFi 7 it shouldn't be that hard to saturate 2.5 GbE.

I'm at 1200 Mbps with my tp-link AX55 wifi 6... $130 on amazon...

Given that that device only has 1gig ethernet, I highly doubt you are seeing 1.2gbps data transfer speeds

Re: UniFi U7 Pro

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Post by coder543 »

coder543 wrote: post #51
genmud wrote: post #5

I wish they would get their shit together and have software that isn't buggy / riddled with security issues. Their march to a cloud dependent offering is so disappointing.

I just need a WiFi 7 Access Point. I don't need the rest of Ubiquiti's stack. Fortunately, Ubiquiti supports (basic) standalone operation for access points: https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/12594679474071-Standal... No buggy software required. I don't see any reason to believe this new access point won't support standalone, so I just ordered one to replace an older access point (an Amplifi Alien that was in Brid…

Just to report back on this in case anyone finds this comment in the future... standalone mode almost worked.

On the UniFi U7 Pro, standalone mode was limited to 40MHz channel width on 5GHz and 160MHz channel width on 6GHz, which was a dealbreaker for me. The hardware is capable of 240MHz on 5GHz and 320MHz on 6GHz. So, I installed the controller on a local server and used that to configure the hardware to its fullest potential.

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