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Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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Fish management doesn't really require global cooperation. It does require some sacrifice. Where I live 100 years ago herring spawn covered nearly every shoreline. I live in an archipelago so there is a lot of coastline. Now there are sporadic patches of herring spawn. The herring fishery is a multi million dollar industry. Herring is also the base of the larger fin-fish population. We can't harvest all the food for…

>That is something that can be done at a local level without global cooperation. You're assuming some foreign operator won't come to your local waters to illegally fish. China has shown they will fish literally anywhere they can get away with it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...

It's worth noting that Korea and Taiwan are right behind China in illegal fishing (#3 and #6, respectively).

For reasons, it doesn't win you any friends when you complain about them, though.

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

#92
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Heh, poke bowls are already $20 where I live. Maybe we should make them $30 or $40 and save the fish.

Increasing what fish wholesale pay for caught tuna might serve to make smaller catches more viable.

I mean I expect those dish prices to go up regardless but I don't think that is near enough by itself. Fishing families have to pay their bills and corp fishing execs have to satisfy whoever they're beholden to. Those are powerful motivators and they commonly don't respond to anything less than enforced regulation.

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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> We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. That's why this isn't great. Because this is not "we went vegan to save the oceans". It is "the oceans look like they are already destroyed". Besides that, I haven't seen any studies that show a vegan or vegetarian diet makes someone healthier.

There are over a billion people that don't eat meat by choice on the planet and another billion plus that have low access to animal protein. We can attempt to fix it before ecosystems collapse, if we do it afterwards, the only meat you will be eating will be worms.

Well, worms and insects

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. Nah you can eat just as bad vegan food. Most vegan burgers are just fat patties much worse than those made of lean beef. As with any type of food it depends on the choices you make within the class and the amount of it. I think the reason vegans and vegetarians are healthier is mainly because they are more conscious of what they're eating in the first place. And depending on where yo…

They have lower saturated fat than lean beef, good protein content and blend, and overall less strain on the organs.

Which organs are you referring to?

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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They have lower saturated fat than lean beef, good protein content and blend, and overall less strain on the organs.

Saturated fat from beef is one of the healthiest things to consume.

Where could I read more about this?

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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So has Japan.

Citation? Because as best I can tell Japan has been doing what they can to prevent fish obtained by illegal means from hitting their market. https://www.seafoodsource.com/news/supply-trade/japanese-leg...

How could Japan be having its jellyfish problem, stemming from overfishing allegedly, if the rules were actually enforced?

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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I watched a documentary years ago about jellyfish invading Japan. Basically, the jellyfish population was exploding because the fish didn't exist to eat the baby jellyfish and keep them under control. The Japanese fishermen were furious that they kept catching jellyfish, rather than the fish that they wanted. They were the cause of their own suffering. Sounds like things haven't changed... I hesitate to think that Ja…

They could start eating jellyfish to pick up the slack.

Maybe? I mean sea urchin is delicious, popular, and sells at a high price but still seems to threaten a lot of kelp forest

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…

With regards to the point about health, I disagree. The culprit is not meat vs veggies, as processed foods and the ilk of hydrogenated fats and fructose based syrups and added sugars are by far the indicators of poor health. We see this in countless recent studies today. Some prior links such as meat = cancer are not seen as correct now. Good health is achieved by regular physical exercise, and clear choices of unpro…

> processed foods

In the United States when you eat meat it's a lot harder to know what you're getting thanks to the tireless efforts of the meat industry to lobby against any change to food labeling.

And it's hard to feed this much trash to a carrot: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/stz2j1/plast...

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

#100
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As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…

> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups.

My healthy breakfast of donuts and a soda ;)

Jokes aside, I don’t think the health point stands, but the animal health perspective probably does.

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