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'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

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#92
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who do follow through won’t care anymore.

They leave behind people who will.

There are also people forcing other people to live in a state of undeath while hooked to machines because they "care" too much.

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Suicide should NOT be as stigmatized as it currently is in modern society. I think that the problem here is the fact that in some cases what might drive someone to taking their life might be preventable: either with therapy, medication, supportive people around them, or a mix of all of those. Or to call out harmful behavior when it occurs on the part of others, because humans can be really horrible to one another.…

> either with therapy, medication, supportive people around them, or a mix of all of those I feel like you forgot the primary thing that would help people to stop thinking of ending it: being able to afford necessities.

It breaks my heart that this is the case. Honestly, even online you hear so much about people struggling with everything from affording food, to hoping that they'll ever be able to pay off their debts or even afford a place to live. :(

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#94
post #74

Assisted suicide is already legal in a number of countries, and I think this is the logical next step. If you can operate the apparatus yourself, you don't leave the scar on someone else's consciousness. You could say that this only shifts the burden one step away, but I think that is enough — if you decide to take your own life, whatever your reasons, it shouldn't be up to someone else to do it for you.

But then you still need someone (your family) to "clean up" your body...

Not necessarily. It's possible the device could automatically call the paramedics/coroner who would move your body to the funeral home.

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#95
Remember, it's never too early to write down AND notarise your wishes related to your health and death.

Make it plain, make it official, tell people you've done it. That way your relatives and family can't keep you alive forcibly "because that's what they would've wanted" or some other misguided reasons.

Mine has clear instructions to pull the plug in specific situations and not to extend my life unnaturally.

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#96
Is there consensus of what gas is best for the purpose? I read some papers on animal slaughter done with gas and apparently even things like helium, argon or nitrogen are not completely neutral.

One horrifying thing I've read is that industry actually often uses CO2 because it's cheap. Which causes hurtful and very emotional suffocation.

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#97
post #74

Assisted suicide is already legal in a number of countries, and I think this is the logical next step. If you can operate the apparatus yourself, you don't leave the scar on someone else's consciousness. You could say that this only shifts the burden one step away, but I think that is enough — if you decide to take your own life, whatever your reasons, it shouldn't be up to someone else to do it for you.

But then you still need someone (your family) to "clean up" your body...

I really like the idea of using top loaded fridge as a makeshift capsule. You could prepay electricty bill. So they come clean you up at their own convenience with very little mess hopefully.

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#98
post #12

I think it’s funny that this page has a “If you or someone you know is struggling or in mental health crisis …” blurb at the bottom. This is like Bud Light saying “please drink responsibly”. The entire point of this invention seems to be to lower the barrier to entry to suicide, so a statement discouraging suicide seems to me a strange thing to follow with.

Not really. Maybe you got there because you're feeling out of options, and you're looking at "how to painlessly commit suicide", but you're not "opposed" to getting help, you're just pessimistic or hopeless about it. To me, a device like this is about "having made that decision", being in control, and it being clean. I'm a paramedic-firefighter. I have gone to every type of suicide you can imagine. And most of them a…

How clean would you say is using toploaded freezer filled with nitrogen/argon/helium with electric bill prepaid for few years ahead?

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#99
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That view exists, but that's not at all what I'm expressing. The idea in this thread is that people experiencing /temporary/ suicidal ideation and go through with it won't care afterwards and therefore it's not an actual problem. I'm pointing out the most obvious flaw with this conclusion.

It’s not temporary if they follow through. Read some Camus and meditate on relativity’s reach; can’t ever know the abstract signals others feel. We’re not made of philosophy but mush and go propagating electricity. Is it temporary if they stick around or are they role-playing? You can’t ever actually know. Just argue rhetorical positions in symbolic logic. Not the same as being anyone else. There’s no “flaw” as there…

> Read some Camus and meditate on relativity’s reach

Grow up. People dying has impacts on the world. Ignore them, decry the immorality of it all, or bury your head in Camus if you like.. it doesn't magically dispell any of it.

Re: 'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland

#100
Assisted suicide is a very serious and though trough process. Anybody claiming othervise is just uninformed and opinionated. My partners father chose to leave this way after a long and very painful cancer. Under no circumstances can anybody do assisted suicide without proper medical and mental assistance. The police will check by as well in switzerland and verify. Not giving people the chance to choose how to end a painful and hurtful time is just cruel. The process is already self-induced if the patient is still able to do so.
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