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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by boringuser2 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #59
jcalvinowens wrote: post #5

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

The only site I've found behaves terribly in Firefox is LinkedIn. Weird pauses on page load that lock the whole browser (not just the tab) for like 5-10 seconds. No idea what they're doing to make this happen, but it's odd. Which is, well, fine, because LinkedIn is mostly a dumpster anyways.

Any site that is on the edge of performance (often due to bad engineering, which you can blame on time constraints) will perform vastly better in Chromium.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by ncgl »

jcalvinowens wrote: post #5

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

This is a funny comment - why'd you leave Firefox to have to come back to it?

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by cle »

sgt wrote: post #7

> Firefox is the only major browser not built by a company that makes money from advertising and/or selling your personal data This is true for Google, etc, but definitely not for Apple. Not saying Apple is perfect in every way, but they actually have a track record for privacy protection.

Apple definitely makes a lot of money from advertising...probably more than they make from selling Macs (based on 2022 results).

Also I think this quote might be technically right, but Mozilla's revenue is almost entirely paid from advertising companies who pay royalties to have their search engines by default in Firefox. So they are very much coupled to the dynamics of the ads industry.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by nacs »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #45

I would like to, but Firefox behaves problematic in regard to auth urls like https://name:password@news.ycombinator.com 1: When you bookmark them, it shows the auth part when you hover the bookmark with the mouse. 2: When you open them from the command line firefox https://name:password@news.ycombinator.com And then ctrl+click links on the site, it opens the new tab and shows the auth part in the tab title as long as…

You're literally putting the password in plain-text into the (unencrypted) browser bookmarks (and also into your terminal where it's likely logged to your ~/.bash_history).

That is the bigger security issue you have, not how Firefox is handling the display of the URL.

If anything, Firefox is highlighting your insecure security practice.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

Slackwise wrote: post #44

I use PWAs extensively and Firefox decided they won't bother to implement them, so that's going to be a no from me. Rather than wanting the web platform to be first class, they really want it to languish as a second-class citizen. Really sad, seeing as they also fired devs, and invested in "AI" instead.

Curious, can you give some examples of PWAs you use, and why? I've rarely seen any benefit of actually installing a PWA vs just bookmarking the site.

On mobile, I could see privacy reasons for wanting to use a PWA vs a native app, but every time I've seen a site that supports a PWA, they also support a native app and the PWA is usually a sad substitute in comparison.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by datadrivenangel »

Zekio wrote: post #50
Trasmatta wrote: post #38

How are the Firefox dev tools these days? I feel like every time I try to switch, the dev tooling has felt subpar compared to Chrome, and I don't like using one browser for regular use and one for development. It's been a couple years since I tried though.

for css they are best in class IMHO, especially the visualizations of flex and grid

Not as good for networking and performance as chrome dev tools, but the visualizations for styling are notably better.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by markx2 »

ausbah wrote: post #29
markx2 wrote: post #14

Firefox user since before it was Firefox. Daily: Firefox with probably too many blockers, tampermonkey, umatrix, Stylus. I aggressively block any and every element on sites I visit regularly. You get no stats from me. Also daily: Firefox Developer Ed for frequently visited sites where I need to login and every site is in a container tab. Brave - my daily puzzle fix for Wordle, Wordiply, Travle, Tradle (no logins, cle…

do you have any other recs for firefox extensions?

Archive Page

Bypass Paywalls Clean

CSS Exfil Protection

Decentraleyes

DDG Privacy Essentials

Ghostery

NoScript

Privacy Badger

Privacy-Oriented Origin Policy

Stylus

Tampermonkey

uBlock Origin

uMatrix

Yes, there is overkill in there but that's fine. It does not impact my browsing experience.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

pprotas wrote: post #77
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #45

I would like to, but Firefox behaves problematic in regard to auth urls like https://name:password@news.ycombinator.com 1: When you bookmark them, it shows the auth part when you hover the bookmark with the mouse. 2: When you open them from the command line firefox https://name:password@news.ycombinator.com And then ctrl+click links on the site, it opens the new tab and shows the auth part in the tab title as long as…

You save passwords in plain text (bookmarks) and then complain that people can read the plain text over your shoulder?

Yes. The auth part should not be displayed when you hover over a bookmark. Chromium does not display it.

In the end, every security mechanism is "plain text". Even ssh keys. When someone gains access to your ssh key, which is just an ascii string, they can log in as you.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by jjice »

jcalvinowens wrote: post #5

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

I've been using FireFox for about 4.5 years now, but I have to have Chrome installed for a few reasons unfortunately.

- Some websites still will just not work in FireFox. It's not super common anymore, but if I sense something is fishy, I pop open the console and see some strange error and swap over to Chrome. Things will just work then. All extensions disabled even. I even ran into this on Vanguard's website, albeit for some obscure forms.

- When I worked at a company that had a larger web app presence, I would have to test in Chrome. That's a given, but my Chrome counterparts did not do the same with FireFox. I would fairly regularly (few times a quarter) find things that were completely broked on FireFox.

All that said, I don't really care about my choice in browser very much, but I'd rather support Mozilla over Google still. Especially since they're the only non-Chromium and v8 engine out there aside from Safari, which is also owned by a massive for profit company. I'd like to help support a more open web, even if it's just a little bit.

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