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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

> and government subsidies What government subsidies has Tesla received to date? Please post links to sources.

https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/tesla-inc

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

> and government subsidies What government subsidies has Tesla received to date? Please post links to sources.

Here is one source: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-201...

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

Aren't everybody using android auto (or its Apple equivalent) these days anyway? The builtin infotainment system is usually just a second thought that exist just to showcase something in the showroom and setup android auto at first use.

No, because Teslas don't support it and you're stuck with whatever they thought of.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

What does your poor choice of ICE cars have to say about Tesla though? Having a crap experience across the board isn't a redeeming feature you think it is.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Picking VW as an example for Infotainment is the equivalent of picking Tesla for reliability: a way to show how not to do it.

I can vouch that Dacia or Renault is not any better and serve as a pure gateway to Apple Carplay.

Current Audi is.. fine? But still Android Auto is better. It would be hard to beat because my car is not going to be as integrated.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

Aren't everybody using android auto (or its Apple equivalent) these days anyway? The builtin infotainment system is usually just a second thought that exist just to showcase something in the showroom and setup android auto at first use.

I have no reason to use it because my infotainment doesn’t suck.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

Were they luxury cars, like teslas?

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

> loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence

Confirmed. Friends in the car maintenance business have witnessed for years a quality fall (materials etc).

"Infotainment", I hope I will not have the experience (apart maybe from removing some), but my last car was the first one with a sound system that hissed.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Tesla owners are probably so rich they can just buy another when the car breaks down. Or why would anyone buy a Tesla in the first place if they were not angry at money.

> can just buy another

There is already commenter here claiming that all 4 Teslas they owned were reliable.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Sofar I've owned 4 Tesla cars and never had any serious issues that were not addressed immediately. My current Model Y had a cracked roof, they replaced the glass within a couple or hours. Here in The Netherlands inspections are mandatory for all cars every 1/2 years. I've noticed the tires may not be as durable as they should be but no idea how they stack up against another EV. Anything you use and use a lot needs m…

But ... why ? Why did you have 4 Teslas in ~10 years ? I'm really curious, why are you buying an electric car in the first place ? Cause it's sure as hell not for the sake of saving the planet.

Probably the same reason people go through a BMW every few years: leasing cars so you are always driving new cars.
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