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This! If there’s any technology that has enabled and normalized after-hours work it’s got to be slack, perhaps even more so than email.
Pathetic behavior I have observed in myself in the past: unconsciously opening Slack at 8am/11pm after being let go from the job and not even being able to sign in.
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People regularly walk in from the street just in time for that 10:30 standup. Then it's 11, then they get ready for the day, then it's lunch time. Then it's lunch coma. Then by 3PM they start gaining speed. By that time, I am already exhausted.
To be fair some people have naturally different "peak hours" and sleep schedules. I naturally fall asleep around 1-2AM and wake up at 10. Going to bed earlier involves tossing and turning for hours annoying the SO. Staying up for 36 hours to "reset" works for a couple nights before the schedule drifts back to its natural state. I practice sleep hygiene and have tried cutting out caffeine. Conversely, there's no amoun…
The thing that saved me were these $35 acupressure mats. 20-30 minutes and I am out.
Yet another ink blot study where everyone will look at the results and see what they want to see. Work however long you want JFC.
I think this comment would be highly upvoted if it included citations to contradictory studies, and maybe had a more constructive tone.
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> Hustle is great if you have a well defined, measurable objective Hustle is great if you are going to make 8 figures if the startup you work at ipos. Your roi doesn't really change at big companies. might even be negative in the cases where they freeze raises (msft and others).
It's not inherently about salary but about perceiving the work as something important you really, really want to accomplish. Money is only one of the possible motivators.
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To be fair some people have naturally different "peak hours" and sleep schedules. I naturally fall asleep around 1-2AM and wake up at 10. Going to bed earlier involves tossing and turning for hours annoying the SO. Staying up for 36 hours to "reset" works for a couple nights before the schedule drifts back to its natural state. I practice sleep hygiene and have tried cutting out caffeine. Conversely, there's no amoun…
Is “peak hours” a studied phenomenon? I have always assumed it is lifestyle habits and circadian rhythm/inertia. My experience with jet lag makes me think it is the latter.
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Yeah 9am is not early at all and way more into running late territory. Early risers to me means focused and productive at 730AM local time. I’m usually ready to go full speed by 8AM, I wfh and kids are out the door to school by 7:35-7:40Am. /in the US and work in consulting
In every tech workplace I've been, 9am start time is the early risers, and 10:30-11am is when people actually 'are online'. Maybe it's different in the consulting space.
> Three out of every four desk workers report working in the 3 to 6pm timeframe, but of those, only one in four consider these hours highly productive. It’s nice to see some data on this. A lot of people talk about a 4-day workweek, but personally I think a 6-hour work day would be better. At least in white-collar jobs, I think most people could fit the same amount of productivity into fewer (focused) hours. Plus a d…
> make things easier for working parents. During the (now semi-aborted) back-to-office push at my employer, several of us pointed out that a 9-5 in the office is impossible for those of us with children and a commute. - 8:00am - earliest free drop-off time at school. - 8:12 or 8:20 - next bus or train to the city. I can probably make that from the school, if I fully sprint for at least half that journey. (Taking a ca…
I mean, is it really surprising these two are correlated? I'm pretty sure the causation works as follows: they're working extra hours because, like, they felt behind.
Some people who aren't behind may work extra hours anyway...for fun? But I'm guessing that's less people. Not to mention there's cognitive bias at play: these people might not even self-report that as "working extra hours".
I work in AI research in the Bay Area where hustle culture is strong. OpenAI and hot startups have normalised working long hours and taking few vacations. Hustle is great if you have a well defined, measurable objective. With such an aim it is easy to keep track of your progress over time and maximize your work. But when you want to do research, design great composible systems, be creative, write good code, it is bet…
> But when you want to do research, design great composible systems, be creative, write good code, it is better to do it casually. As a fellow ML researcher, I actually have a good answer to this. It's a creative task, not a labor task. Creative tasks require your brain to be exceptionally flexible and to view things from unique perspectives. Research is literally creating something that no one has thought of before…
There is lots written about this. Whole careers built on advice about it. It seems what works for some people does not work for others. My outline won't help you if you're in the valley but I'll write it out anyway, some people live elsewhere.
1/ Wake up early. Like daybreak early.
2/ Do not look at email, slack etc. No admin stuff at this point.
3/ Leisurely breakfast letting your mind wander. Historically cooked by wife, ymmv there.
4/ Spend the morning walking, thinking, writing things down. Especially write ideas down before lunch.
5/ It's midday. Optionally eat things. Open email.
6/ Entire afternoon is spent doing whatever "work" one found in the email. Put out the fires. Do the code reviews. Write whatever simple stuff seems to be required.
7/ It's evening. Try to forget the fires. Exercise helps.
8/ Spend the evening on research or socialising. Aim is to have interesting context for dreams.
9/ Sleep time.
That is relatively new to me - couple of months or so - and working really well. Note the complete lack of family activities - either that overlaps the afternoon fires or the morning creativity, or both. Opportunity cost is rough. No creative work for you if there's a toddler or an unsupportive partner present.
This morning-creative afternoon-productive split works really well if most of your colleagues are five hours west of you. They wake up in time to light things on fire. If they're five hours east, maybe swap the two blocks of time over. If they're in the same timezone and expect to talk to you all day, no creative work for you. Opportunity cost again.
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> make things easier for working parents. During the (now semi-aborted) back-to-office push at my employer, several of us pointed out that a 9-5 in the office is impossible for those of us with children and a commute. - 8:00am - earliest free drop-off time at school. - 8:12 or 8:20 - next bus or train to the city. I can probably make that from the school, if I fully sprint for at least half that journey. (Taking a ca…
When I was a kid, I would get dropped off early for “before school programs at school” and stay at “after school programs” at school and get picked up late because both of my parents worked full time. Do they not have those anymore (which sound like less money than “hiring childcare”)?