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Re: JetBrains AI

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Post by dzhiurgis »

_boffin_ wrote: post #73
rf15 wrote: post #71

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Yes, but if you're looking for code completion at the quality level of Codex/Github Copilot, that's still a bit off.

Can you show me the metrics for that, please. Additionally, what's your company's IP policy? Do they let you send their code to a remote company or do they see that as a breach of security?

I'm sure there are all sort of companies with very strict isolation requirements. But your typical enterprise will run your code editor in cloud VDI, host on atlassian, deploy using atlassian, deploy on some other cloud provider and be developed by double outsourced junior developer who's got warezd windows licence. I fail to see how adding another party who says they explicitly don't collect your data will make any difference.

Re: JetBrains AI

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Post by andix »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #89
andix wrote: post #61

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I think it makes sense not to include it to the license. Such solutions cause additional cost just by the needed computing power, which the customer needs to pay for. So the cost of the JetBrians license needs to include that in the long term. If one would like to use another AI tool like Copilot they would still need to pay for JetBrains AI. In a lot of environments Coding AI usage is not allowed or even possible (n…

"A lot" are not allowed? Most of places who disallow AI assistants will also happily pay exorbitant rates to consultants who will publish all your code base publicly on git... And how many offline coders are out there? My guess is less than 1%?

It’s not just about offline coders. A lot of companies have a policy that code can’t leave their internal systems. No GitHub, no OpenAI, just internal tools.

Far more than 1% of developers are affected with that.

But let’s take it from another perspective: you will be happier if jetbrains increases the prices 100$ per year and AI is included instead of having an optional 100$ payment?

Re: JetBrains AI

#93

Post by debug-desperado »

"One can block AI features for the project by creating a file with the name '.noai' in the root of the repository."

Is this a standard among vendors yet, or are we veering into more dotfile project directory pollution?

Re: JetBrains AI

#94

Post by bdavbdav »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #89
andix wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it makes sense not to include it to the license. Such solutions cause additional cost just by the needed computing power, which the customer needs to pay for. So the cost of the JetBrians license needs to include that in the long term. If one would like to use another AI tool like Copilot they would still need to pay for JetBrains AI. In a lot of environments Coding AI usage is not allowed or even possible (n…

"A lot" are not allowed? Most of places who disallow AI assistants will also happily pay exorbitant rates to consultants who will publish all your code base publicly on git... And how many offline coders are out there? My guess is less than 1%?

Come work in finance. No external services.

Re: JetBrains AI

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Post by bdavbdav »

adamjc wrote: post #54
_boffin_ wrote: post #26

I will only want to use this if i'm able to host the LLM locally. Currently using CodeGPT and running CodeBooga 34b @ 4bit on my work laptop. This is good enough for me, but i'd love some more advanced functionality, such as code completion. CodeGPT - Repo: https://github.com/carlrobertoh/CodeGPT - Plugin: https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/21056-codegpt

Isn't that going to be extremely slow? I can only realistically run 7B 5-bit models on my RTX 3060, anything more and it offloads to the CPU. My responses go from almost-instantaneous to 3mins+.

This is where the Mac world shines.

Re: JetBrains AI

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Post by mthoms »

irrational wrote: post #14
thesurlydev wrote: post #5

Would love to see an unbiased direct comparison between GitHub Copilot and Copilot Chat. How do folks handle competing "helpers"? I've found I need to turn one on at a time. Otherwise, it's distracting.

One thing to note is Copilot Chat does not work in JetBrains IDEs, yet. You have to use a text editor like Visual Studio Code instead.

I got approved for the beta yesterday. So far I’m impressed with Copilot Chat in Webstorm but I’ve yet to use it with a complex project.

Re: JetBrains AI

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Post by [deleted] »

alright2565 wrote: post #70
irrational wrote: post #14

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One thing to note is Copilot Chat does not work in JetBrains IDEs, yet. You have to use a text editor like Visual Studio Code instead.

I have copilot chat in Jetbrains. To be honest it's not great. For example, it seems like the "simplify this code" button really just removes all the code comments. I get much better results by copy-pasting into ChatGPT4, or by just tabbing through the regular copilot autocomplete in a code file.

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Re: JetBrains AI

#98

Post by irrational »

dissident_coder wrote: post #69
irrational wrote: post #14

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One thing to note is Copilot Chat does not work in JetBrains IDEs, yet. You have to use a text editor like Visual Studio Code instead.

It's in beta, it turned on for me yesterday.

How did you know it was turned on? I applied weeks ago and haven’t heard anything.

Re: JetBrains AI

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Post by dzhiurgis »

thesurlydev wrote: post #5

Would love to see an unbiased direct comparison between GitHub Copilot and Copilot Chat. How do folks handle competing "helpers"? I've found I need to turn one on at a time. Otherwise, it's distracting.

I've cancelled Copilot due to subscription fatigue and quickly found I can't live without one. Tried Cody and it's buggy af and just not as useful.

There's no going back from Copilot, but keen to try JB's AI. Seems one can't get a trial going using student licence tho.

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