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Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

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Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#91
Hey, mailcow founder here!

That’s one of the reasons I stopped working on hosted mail. It has not turned to anything better with big companies putting their hands over it. It’s more controlled now but the same crap as before, just as dangerous and a bit more expensive.

Currently working on a system with as much control as possible but piggybacking existing providers' transports.

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your e-mail client loads external images it was already confirmed on open without clicking any link.

Ewww, why would anyone have their client configured to do that? That would be truly idiotic. Personally, my email is text only. It drops all HTML. I prefer it this way. :)

Nearly everyone has their client configured to do that, because it is the default setting. Gmail makes that very easy to change, but many other clients have it buried in the menu

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#93
post #91

Hey, mailcow founder here! That’s one of the reasons I stopped working on hosted mail. It has not turned to anything better with big companies putting their hands over it. It’s more controlled now but the same crap as before, just as dangerous and a bit more expensive. Currently working on a system with as much control as possible but piggybacking existing providers' transports.

Something like Delta Chat?

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#94
post #16

I have an outlook.com account, too and having a look at the Spam-folder is as important as looking at the Inbox. Too many important mails get missing with outlook

Because WAY too many people use the “Report Spam” button on emails that are not actually “spam”. Gmail has the exact same problem.

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#95

This sort of email oligopoly/mafia problem can only really be solved with legislation. There needs to be push from within the EU to legislate this hopeless situation.

How is legislation the only answer? Users can just stop using Outlookif they care that MS is blocking providers. If users don't care and stay on Outlook, why bother legislating it?

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#96

This sort of email oligopoly/mafia problem can only really be solved with legislation. There needs to be push from within the EU to legislate this hopeless situation.

How is legislation the only answer? Users can just stop using Outlookif they care that MS is blocking providers. If users don't care and stay on Outlook, why bother legislating it?

Ah, yes, a school student can just call their IT department and tell them to switch providers.

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#97
Hah! My bank did this too before I went on a trip - it blocks Interac transfer requests from Wise, and will hold your outgoing transfers until you call to validate, calling it fraud. Gotta love using your own anti-abuse processes to stifle competition, as little impact as it may have.

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#98
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if the unsubscribe link works I still report spam as spam. If it is unsolicited then it is spam, plain and simple.

When someone sends spam perhaps don't click on any "Unsubscribe" type link...? Those links are often spammer controlled and just confirm your email address as valid.

Nah. Hit unsubscribe every time.

I own my own email domain, and I use a different email address per service. I have done so for 13 years.

On legitimate emails, unsubscribe works correctly almost every time.

True spam seems to originate from a handful of compromised services like LinkedIn, parkmobile, etc. I don’t hit unsubscribe on those, but I don’t see how it would make things any worse.

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#99

This sort of email oligopoly/mafia problem can only really be solved with legislation. There needs to be push from within the EU to legislate this hopeless situation.

How is legislation the only answer? Users can just stop using Outlookif they care that MS is blocking providers. If users don't care and stay on Outlook, why bother legislating it?

First: Most users don't care. From their perspective, its' always the senders fault/problem. And the burden is always on the sender to prove it was actually outlook that dropped the email etc.

Second: corporate & institutional users have no choice

Re: Microsoft Outlook Blocking All Email from Tutanota.com Domain as Spam

#100
I wouldn't mind these providers being aggressive with spam filtering IF they would just bounce the messages so i know WHY. I've had so many cases where an 'email wasn't sent' by our systems and then the logs show it was accepted by outlook.com for delivery, but never even showed up in the spam folder (apparently, if customers are to be trusted).

Many providers seems to do this, respond everything ok and then drop the message silently..

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