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23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by mrtksn »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #72
mrtksn wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are billions of addresses in the world and you can look it up online. It is an identifying information only when it is attached to an identity. That's exactly the same. DNA is everywhere, it's only identifying when connected to an identity.

It can be tied to your identity, that's the point. Because they'll have your relatives' data.

They can match me with my DNA if they already have complete knowledge of my family structure and all their DNA. So if all Kardashians but one send their DNA for tests providing their true identities and the last one sends anonymously, they can assume the identity of the last one.

So yes, there's a risk but its not much different from going outside and leave behind hair or saliva unaccounted for. That's Putin level of paranoia IMHO(he is known to have men collecting his poo etc. when outside).

Maybe can be useful for insurance companies to match you and price you according to your DNA but they are not allowed to do that and they can only exist within legal structure.

Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by spacebacon »

spacebacon wrote: post #86
spacebacon wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it’s almost as if a swarm of google investors and employees launch radical campaigns against critics.

Maybe we all shouldn’t be so QUIC to bad protocols.

Keep downvoting yourself into the deepest hole you can imagine Google.

Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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spacebacon wrote: post #79
spacebacon wrote: post #49

It's imperative to recognize that the healing of cross-generational trauma is a journey within an individual's lifetime, rather than resorting to a confrontational approach that employs genetic data to incriminate individuals based on what science implies about their genetic makeup. The flaws inherent in this data—biased, widespread, and contaminated—highlight its unreliability. Relying on such data, which historical…

Anyone else notice downvotes are hand and hand with google criticism here much?

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Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by barrysteve »

spacebacon wrote: post #49

It's imperative to recognize that the healing of cross-generational trauma is a journey within an individual's lifetime, rather than resorting to a confrontational approach that employs genetic data to incriminate individuals based on what science implies about their genetic makeup. The flaws inherent in this data—biased, widespread, and contaminated—highlight its unreliability. Relying on such data, which historical…

Yes genetic testing is suspectible to psuedo science, something like phrenology.

It is much healthier to offer genetic improvements for flaws than arbitrarily incriminate by way of dna makeup.

Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by Majestic121 »

pfdietz wrote: post #88
kfk wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI, the police is able to find criminals now by finding DNA sequences similarities with your relatives. Not saying this is good or bad, I am just saying you don't know the extent of the impact to your personal freedom when your relative's DNA is shared.

I can help track down distant family members who have committed crimes? Sounds like a plus. I think the angst about this comes from men who don't want their status as fathers of illegitimate children (or, rapists when they were younger) unmasked.

Why do you make this issue gendered, and if you do why would it impact only men father of illegitimate children, and not cheating mothers ?

Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by mclightning »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #95

Nice data for a super biological weapon though.

imagine the next hitler... as an immigrant with his data on 23andme, I am pretty scared. I am sure 1 out of the 10 ethnicities that I am affiliated with, will be eventually hated by some group.

Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by mrtksn »

saalweachter wrote: post #71
mrtksn wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously I don't trust any assurances, but on the other hand I'm handing over my genetic data all the time because parts of me end up over in the hands of 3rd parties whenever I go outside but they just happen not to run test on those. If I can have a test that is not connected to my persona, from their perspective the data would be as valuable as running a test on the hair in the barbershop or picking a random left…

I mean, what is your threat model, and what are you trying to get out of DNA/ancestry services? If you're worried about getting arrested for one of the many crimes you've committed, and you want to meet far-flung relatives, you're kind of in a bind here. Assuming unlimited cooperation between the police and the DNA/ancestry services -- which your threat model in this case would require -- even if they don't have your…

My threat model is about the changing world, essentially activist who feel like having right to tell who lives where. I usually pass by the look, fail by the accent and I intend not to have another data point they can use.

Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by spacebacon »

skummetmaelk wrote: post #6

This disaster is the perfect counter-argument to those always saying "why do you care so much about privacy. It doesn't affect you when I share things. You can just choose not to do it", except no, I can't choose when we're relatives and you chose to share our genome. It is so obvious that your relatives sharing their genomic data with 23andMe reveals a lot of information about you. We can only hope people will reali…

Maybe we all shouldn’t be so Quic to create bad ideas.

Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users

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Post by mclightning »

stef25 wrote: post #67
nroets wrote: post #57

Isn't it time governments start to regulate passwords ? (They already regulate a lot of privacy issues like medical and financial history. Some governments even regulate the use of finger print authentication of employees) For example, any website that allows users to choose normal, easy to remember passwords should meet a long list of requirements: For example security audits, bug bounties, capital reserves to deal…

> Isn't it time governments start to regulate passwords ? Nah we're good. They already regulate cookies and it's a dumpster fire.

dumpster fire for who?
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