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Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by MengYuanLong »

manveru wrote: post #48
ahelwer wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This led me on a one-hour Wikipedia detour and I now possess detailed development knowledge of Disney's Haunted Mansion theme park ride. Seriously cool stuff.

Have you read http://craphound.com/down/ (Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom) yet?

Doctorow's novel is amazing. It really inspired me to change the way I approach life and appreciate value. Plus, it is relatively short!

Basically, that book is to blame for me converting from a slacker to a hacker.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by StavrosK »

patrickgzill wrote: post #89

So after this is perfected, you could grab my image, make it look like I was the person who held up a bank and shot a hostage, and all the eyewitnesses would say it was me, and could give a positive ID? What would hidden security cameras show?

They would probably show a crew of tens of people installing a mirror system, cameras, sound, etc etc in the bank, and then a half-translucent image of you (maybe) coming in and awkwardly robbing it, if the tellers were in on it and had rehearsed beforehand so the recording of you could look in sync with their actions. Also, they couldn't hand you any objects.

It'd be easier for someone with a balaclava to rob the bank and plant the money in your house before an "anonymous tip", really.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by apawloski »

joejohnson wrote: post #11

Coachella has done a lot of innovative tricks this year. I was impressed that anyone in US could watch three of the stages live on YouTube. Live concert footage and other live videos on the web are going to quickly make TV feel overpriced.

For what it's worth, this isn't the first year Coachella was live streamed on YouTube.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by nothis »

bazzargh wrote: post #7

A bit more info - the tech behind this is a 2d variation on the Pepper's Ghost illusion ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper%27s_ghost ), apparently licensed from Musion ( http://www.musion.co.uk/ ). It's had previous outings - animators at Square Zero have used it several times, including to recreate Frank Sinatra. http://www.squarezero.co.uk/what-we-do/holograms It's interesting to see their videos from 2010, whic…

Yea, the media always tries to headline this as a "hologram", when in fact it's just a 2D projection. Actually, just a glass with enough darkness behind it act as a mirror.

I'm sure there is a lot of know-how in what screen to use, to make the projection bright enough, etc, etc. But that's more fiddling around than revolutionary technology.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by huxley »

rglover wrote: post #15

Love the technology, but is anybody else just a little bit creeped out by this?

It lead me to wonder whether its use will be exclusively limited to dead performers. I can imagine there being some interest in concerts by 1960s era Bob Dylan or say the Stones in 1967-69 being re-enacted.

I'm sure purists might be dismayed but plenty of people watch doumentaries like "Don't Look Back" or "Stones in Exile" to experience a bit of that period.

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Post by danssig »

enjalot wrote: post #63
jgrahamc wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm less creeped out by the technology than by the implications in terms of copyright. What this may mean is that a copyright holder on the image of a person (such as Tupac) will be able to milk that image long after they are dead and potentially without having to pay anyone. When you see Snoop Dogg 'performing' with Tupac you have to wonder where the money is flowing. Tupac's gone, perhaps his family is getting some…

It makes me wonder how Snoop must feel, having performed that same song many times with Pac before...

Probably made him feel rich.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by shinratdr »

gpmcadam wrote: post #77
JonnieCache wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. See the work of cassetteboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2pFYYEiko (NSFW language) All they use is soundforge, and it's trivial. You can achieve perfect results with modern software and algorithmic assistance.

Wouldn't it be easier to just hire a voice actor or impersonator?

It would be easier to just sit at home and listen to an old Tupac album also.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by patrickgzill »

StavrosK wrote: post #92
patrickgzill wrote: post #89

So after this is perfected, you could grab my image, make it look like I was the person who held up a bank and shot a hostage, and all the eyewitnesses would say it was me, and could give a positive ID? What would hidden security cameras show?

They would probably show a crew of tens of people installing a mirror system, cameras, sound, etc etc in the bank, and then a half-translucent image of you (maybe) coming in and awkwardly robbing it, if the tellers were in on it and had rehearsed beforehand so the recording of you could look in sync with their actions. Also, they couldn't hand you any objects. It'd be easier for someone with a balaclava to rob the ba…

That is today's version. 20 years ago the equivalent of an iPad 3 was $400,000 dollars and consumed 3 kilowatts continuously.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Post by rooshdi »

treme wrote: post #62

so what's the law on profitting off someone's avatar like this?

Was wondering that too; only thing I found was this: http://www.vh1.com/music/tuner/2012-04-17/whos-getting-paid-...

It says Dre got Afeni's blessing and made a contribution to Tupac's foundation for his image rights, but I now wonder if this gives him and Aftermath Entertainment unrestricted rights to capitalize off Tupac's hologram in all future concerts.

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