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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Yes it also supports Firefox extensions. Bypass Paywall Clean is a great one.

By what mechanism is it possible for this to be true when Firefox doesn't even support Firefox extensions?

Is this a joke I'm not getting? Currently using FF on every device I use, with 3+ extensions.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I am hopeful for its development but it’s not a daily driver for me. Too many bugs, not a large enough team to support it. When I have looked at the support forum the developer is sometimes a little hostile about bugs/issues, enough so that I don’t care to report my own issues. This is a subjective statement your experience may differ.

For me the highest stopper is that it does not really work with Google Meet and it is not clear if it is a Webkit bug or not. Apart from that, I could probably use it as a daily driver.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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post #84

I am hopeful for its development but it’s not a daily driver for me. Too many bugs, not a large enough team to support it. When I have looked at the support forum the developer is sometimes a little hostile about bugs/issues, enough so that I don’t care to report my own issues. This is a subjective statement your experience may differ.

Just to add, the main complaint I have had with it is the memory leaks/bloat. For example, I sometimes listen to music via youtube while working and after a couple hours the video player interface will become unresponsive, you click pause and it takes 5 seconds for the video to pause. This problem has been around for over a year, I remember seeing some similar posts on the support forum but it was kind of dismissive. This kind of bug is a deal breaker for me.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I had the same experience. Even if uBlock Origin kind of works, somehow it doesn't block the same number of ads as it does with other browsers, I wonder why. Same uBlock Origin version, same filters enabled, fewer ads blocked on Orion. I used this site for example to test: https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html - scores 65% on orion and 99% on other browsers

99% of what? of ads not served? You are mixing ads and tracking and in the end, you can be tracked because you are still unique: With my heavily, via plug-ins, privacy focused firefox I get 99%. With https://www.amiunique.org/fingerprint I get: Yes! You are unique among the 2206539 fingerprints in our entire dataset. PS: with my vanilla Chrome - I use several browsers, for banking and buying plane tickets I always re…

> in the end, you can be tracked because you are still unique

Unique isn't a bad thing really. The trick is to regularly be unique in a different way. I'd rather each tab have a unique fingerprint than simply trust that there's nothing about my browser/device that could identify me. There is an ever growing list of data points your browser makes available and a lot of time, money, and research that goes into finding fingerprinting techniques.

I agree it's good to have a locked down browser for most things and other browsers for websites that you can't get working with everything blocked. Brave is worth a try before you hand your browsing history over directly to Google with chrome or to MS with edge.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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post #91
post #31

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By what mechanism is it possible for this to be true when Firefox doesn't even support Firefox extensions?

Is this a joke I'm not getting? Currently using FF on every device I use, with 3+ extensions.

Parent is probably referring to the saga of extension support in FF for Android (it used to support all extensions until around 2019, then it didn't [0], then it did again but only a small number of extensions [1], they only recently got back to supporting a large number, but not all extensions [2])

[0] https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/21/firefox-for-android-is-sti...

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/12/15/new-extensions-av...

[2] https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2023/08/10/prepare-your-fire...

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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As a paying Kagi user, please don't waste my money on this when Firefox already exists.

I’m also a paying user (and a fan) of Kagi. I’m still confused by the strategy. If you are not Google and trying to have an hegemony on the web, there’s no obvious link between a browser and a search engine. I don’t see the point from a business perspective. It sends a strange signal to users "Hey, by the way, we are reinventing the wheel and making also a browser that works only on some operating systems".

It’s a bit like going for groceries and then your merchant told you all the time "By the way, I’m selling this car prototype. It makes sense! You have to take your car anyway to comes shopping for groceries so why not buying the one from us?".

But I’m a cyclist…

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Yup. Search results are as good in Kagi as Google used to be 10yrs ago, before it became an SEO-tuned, malware-infested garbage pile. Worth $5/month.

I would pay $1 or $2 a month, not $5.

If the switched to 2$ a month, they might double their customer base.

And still earn less money (not even counting the costs).

So, sadly, it is sometimes smart to be expensive.

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