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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by golergka »

gadders wrote: post #60

Weirdly enough, this sort of lines up with a theory posted on 4chan 4 days ago. The gist being that if the version is formally declared AGI, it can't be licensed to Microsoft and others for commercial gain. As a result Altman wants it not to be called AGI, other board members do. Archived link below. NB THIS IS 4CHAN - THERE WILL OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. https://archive.ph/sFMXa

There's been rumours of AI discovering new physics on twitter as well as here on HN. "Solving equations" could mean the same thing.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by ChuckMcM »

germinalphrase wrote: post #69
ChuckMcM wrote: post #5

Things are gonna be lit about 30 seconds after AGI is created. Gotta practice being "Goodlife" early in case that happens. :-)

“being ‘Goodlife’” Is this a reference?

The Saberhagen Berzerker books.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by spzb »

tsunamifury wrote: post #71
dougmwne wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I did stump it, not claim to. Used GPT-4 near when it was released, fed it variations on the problem for about an hour. I found it to be a fascinating exercise because it was teaching be the difference between knowledge (training set) and intelligence (generalization).

http://allofus.ai/journeys/735TTpCUncpAQC9yUqM3ve Easily solved it everytime On allofus.ai using basic reflection and mixture of experts.

That’s the exact same problem with three nouns changed.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by roflyear »

gadders wrote: post #60

Weirdly enough, this sort of lines up with a theory posted on 4chan 4 days ago. The gist being that if the version is formally declared AGI, it can't be licensed to Microsoft and others for commercial gain. As a result Altman wants it not to be called AGI, other board members do. Archived link below. NB THIS IS 4CHAN - THERE WILL OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. https://archive.ph/sFMXa

Also there is this recent comment on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/16sdu6w/rip_ji...

Prior post was 5 years ago!

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by allday »

golergka wrote: post #91
gadders wrote: post #60

Weirdly enough, this sort of lines up with a theory posted on 4chan 4 days ago. The gist being that if the version is formally declared AGI, it can't be licensed to Microsoft and others for commercial gain. As a result Altman wants it not to be called AGI, other board members do. Archived link below. NB THIS IS 4CHAN - THERE WILL OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. https://archive.ph/sFMXa

There's been rumours of AI discovering new physics on twitter as well as here on HN. "Solving equations" could mean the same thing.

Got any links?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by [deleted] »

tyingq wrote: post #61
xanderlewis wrote: post #37

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Mathematical logic doesn’t refer to ‘complex word problems with big numbers’. The reason that LLMs struggle (well, are hopeless currently) with mathematics problems is not because it involves arithmetic (although this is already enough of a struggle) but because it requires a conceptual understanding of the ideas rather than just being about manipulating language — a lot of the goings-on are hidden in the semantic wo…

I've seen it gets tripped up if you mix something common with something uncommon. ChatGPT chokes on, for example: "Two trains on separate tracks, 30 miles from each other are approaching each other, each at a speed of 10 mph. How long before they crash into each other?"

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by fullshark »

falcor84 wrote: post #79
fullshark wrote: post #21

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My guess is if you see AGI as inevitable, then every step towards it is seen as groundbreaking with unprecedented future impact on humanity.

I'm not following - if you think AGI is uncertain, shouldn't you actually be more surprised? I mean, looking at it from a bayesian lens, the lower your prior, the more (in absolute percentage points) you would need to adjust it based on new supporting evidence, no?

If you think AGI is uncertain, then maybe it's just an improvement on a paradigm that is near its end state: amazing autocomplete.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by xanderlewis »

tsunamifury wrote: post #76
TillE wrote: post #62

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GPT-4 is not solving logic problems, it's doing an extremely good job of generating text based on recognizing familiar patterns. If you give it something weird and unfamiliar, it will absolutely fail.

I’m tired of this repetitive statement which is so ridiculous. That’s what you do to! You obviously have to reason using in the fly models on how to pick the next word.

That ‘that’s what humans do too’ is also a repetitive statement. The truth lies somewhere in between, as always: humans and LLMs are similar, but in their current state LLMs do have a serious problem with reasoning tasks — even ones children find trivial.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by ALittleLight »

dougmwne wrote: post #58
tsunamifury wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPT4 solves this problem In any combination easily. What do so many posters seem to claim to have stumped it?

Because I did stump it, not claim to. Used GPT-4 near when it was released, fed it variations on the problem for about an hour. I found it to be a fascinating exercise because it was teaching be the difference between knowledge (training set) and intelligence (generalization).

Solved it first attempt for me - https://chat.openai.com/share/d60f492b-cfd6-4c08-91b9-fbd767...
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