Looks like responsibility and ethics got in the way of profit.
Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
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Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#92Meta cannot be both referee and player on the field. Responsible schmenponsible. True oversight can only come from a an independent entity.
These internal committees are Kabuki theater.
Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#93How convenient! Turns out they don’t give the slightest damn about “Responsible AI” in the first place. It’s nice to roll out news like this while everyone else is distracted.
Meta is probably the most ethical company in AI at the moment. Most importantly, their models are open source.
are they an ethical company, though?
Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#94Because Meta is releasing their models to the public, I consider them the most ethical company doing AI at scale. Keeping AI models closed under the guise of “ethics”, is I think the most unethical stance as it makes people more dependent on the arbitrary decisions, goals, and priorities of big companies, instead being allowed to define “alignment” for themselves.
Kevin Esvelt says open source models could soon be used by terrorists to create bioweapons.
Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#95Because Meta is releasing their models to the public, I consider them the most ethical company doing AI at scale. Keeping AI models closed under the guise of “ethics”, is I think the most unethical stance as it makes people more dependent on the arbitrary decisions, goals, and priorities of big companies, instead being allowed to define “alignment” for themselves.
Exactly this. There certainly needs to be regulation about use of AI to make decisions without sufficient human supervision (which has already proven a problem with prior systems), and someone will have to make a decision about copyright eventually, but closing the models off does absolutely nothing to protect anyone.
Exactly this.
There certainly needs to be regulation about use of bioweapons without sufficient human supervision (which has already proven a problem with prior systems), and someone will have to make a decision about synthetic viruses, but closing the gain of function labs does absolutely nothing to protect anyone.
Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#96Because Meta is releasing their models to the public, I consider them the most ethical company doing AI at scale. Keeping AI models closed under the guise of “ethics”, is I think the most unethical stance as it makes people more dependent on the arbitrary decisions, goals, and priorities of big companies, instead being allowed to define “alignment” for themselves.
Kevin Esvelt says open source models could soon be used by terrorists to create bioweapons. https://nitter.net/kesvelt/status/1720440451059335520 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_M._Esvelt
There's been instructions for manufacturing weapons useful for terrorism floating around since the BBS days, nothing new here
Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#97AI is a tool, and there's about as much point as having some team fretting about responsible usage as there is having similar notions in a Bazooka manufacturer. Whoever ultimately owns the AI (or the Bazooka) will always dictate how and where the particular tool is used. Many of these AI Ethics foundations (e.g., DAIR), just seem to advocate rent seeking behavior, scraping out a role for themselves off the backs of o…
Fretting about the responsible use of bio weapons is a waste of time, it’s a weapon and like Bazooka manufactures we don’t need to worry about ethics…
See that’s the thing you can say A is like B, but that doesn’t actually make them the same thing. AI has new implications because it’s a new thing, some of those are overblown, but others need to be carefully considered. Companies are getting sued for their training data, chances are they’re going to win but lawsuits aren’t free. Managing such risks ahead of time can be a lot cheaper than yelling yolo and forging ahead.
Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#98It feels like to me the ai field is filled with Corp speak phrases that aren't clear at all? Alignment, responsible, safety etc. These aren't adjectives normal people use to describe things. What's up with this?
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not a doomer but I honestly don't understand this argument. If releasing model as open source helps researchers determine if it's safe, what about when it's not deemed safe? Then it's already out there, on the hard drives of half of 4chan. It's much easier and cheaper to fine-tune a model, distil and quantize it and put it on a killer drone, than it is to train it from scratch. On the other hand I totally relate…
what purpose does a LLM serve on a killing drone, exactly?
Open source models in general. Meta has for instance released DINO which is a self supervised transformer model. LLMs are also going multi modal (see LLaVA for instance). The name "LLM" has stuck but they should really be called Large Transformer Models. LeCun is working on self supervised visual world models (I-JEPA) which if successful and released could form the basis for killer drones. It's still a lot of engineering work to fine tune and put a model like this on embedded hardware on a drone, but at some point it might be easy enough for small groups of determined people to pull it off.
Re: Meta disbanded its Responsible AI team
#100Because Meta is releasing their models to the public, I consider them the most ethical company doing AI at scale. Keeping AI models closed under the guise of “ethics”, is I think the most unethical stance as it makes people more dependent on the arbitrary decisions, goals, and priorities of big companies, instead being allowed to define “alignment” for themselves.
Meta’s products have damaged and continue to damage the mental health of hundreds of millions of people, including young children and teenagers.
Whatever their motivation to release models, it’s a for-profit business tactic first. Any ethical spin is varnish that was decided after the fact to promote Meta to its employees and the general public.