An update on salary transparency in job posts

Post by linuxftw » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 4:44 PM UTC

nightski wrote: post #46

howenterprisey wrote: post #26

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What's your point? Their point was that these scales can help provide evidence of minorities and women getting paid less. Can you expand on what we could learn from the situation of two people getting different salaries when they're neither minorities nor women?

My point was that singling out minorities or women is not necessary, it applies to all humans. Although I think what you end up is a mediocre salary for everyone, not just those who negotiate poorly. By setting the salary range tightly it prevents market forces from affecting pay much.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 4:46 PM UTC

linuxftw wrote: post #91

nightski wrote: post #46

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My point was that singling out minorities or women is not necessary, it applies to all humans. Although I think what you end up is a mediocre salary for everyone, not just those who negotiate poorly. By setting the salary range tightly it prevents market forces from affecting pay much.

Unfortunately, grouping people is the only way to enforce these laws in the US. You have to prove you were discriminated against because you are part of some protected group.

Post by bee_rider » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 4:48 PM UTC

Infinitesimus wrote: post #47

bearjaws wrote: post #2

Now lets quantify how many of them are absurd listings. Recently saw a Senior Security Engineer role for Netflix, $100-$700k salary range. How is someone supposed to reasonably negotiate that role? $100k is clearly a joke, $700k is clearly a salary someone got during the bubble. Do I come in at $400k? Is $250k a bargain rate? https://imgur.com/a/0Fe00Qf

> $700k is clearly a salary someone got during the bubble. Research a bit about Netflix's comp philosophy and this will make more sense. It's not bubble compensation. They aim to beat what someone else will pay for your skills, as long as they want you working there. Until recently, they also only hired at a single IC level so the range was probably narrower.

Post by BHSPitMonkey » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 4:49 PM UTC

nonrandomstring wrote: post #82

This is a strange American thing. As a Brit it is utterly bizarre and alien to me. Nobody here would ever look twice at a job that didn't state the salary. If you're trying to fill a position the salary is probably the most important piece of information you need to sell it. How can an employment market even function otherwise?

Post by jghn » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 4:55 PM UTC

dymk wrote: post #68

jghn wrote: post #29

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There is a 0% chance that I'd put in the effort to get an offer from a company just to set my price with a company I'd like to work for. No company is worth that headache. If I happen to already have a competing offer, sure. But when job searching I'm not carpet bombing resumes, I'm targeting specific companies that I think would be a match.

That's why you find two companies you'd like to work for, and have them compete against each other. This is just job hunting basics.