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Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by nmjenkins »

bob_fastmail wrote: post #60
Beijinger wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is supposed to be good. But you can just buy your own domain with Email hosting. It is free with gandi.net. Or use https://www.infomaniak.com/ Infomaniak also sells email hosting for around 20 Euro per year, they are based in Switzerland. If you have your own domain, just type the domain name as you would buy the domain and if the interface says domain taken, select email hosting (the three dots).

Just note that fastmail‘s search is basically useless if you expect Gmail-like search (unless I am missing some sort of trick to get it working). The rest of Fastmail is excellent though.

(I work for Fastmail). Our search is comparable and in some ways more powerful than Gmail's search. If you're having problems, please create a support ticket (or just email support@fastmail.com) and we'd love to look into that for you. Thanks!

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by mtmail »

_nalply wrote: post #77
nusl wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are conveniently ignoring the comment mentioning your bad E2E implementation and commenting on other comments. Why?

Anyone could have registered an account with the name "Tutanota". It does not make sense to converse.

The account is 8 years old and did a 'Show HN' of the service.

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by Tomte »

Beijinger wrote: post #47
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #3

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The main ones for me: - (To my knowledge) Tuta doesn't have secondary services like VPN, etc. - Tuta intentionally does not provide a bridge for email. So everything with their service has to be done through their apps. If you want to use your own email client or command line tools (such as for submitting patchsets to mailing lists), that's not an option.

"So everything with their service has to be done through their apps." What sane person would do this? Use infomaniak instead (Switzerland). Tuta seems to be a German company. There is another one, I forgot the name but a few friends of mine were using it. I used google, could not find it but I am actually surprised that there are many providers. E.g. https://www.qualityhosting.de/hosted-exchange/hosted-exchang... htt…

Posteo locks you in.

They deliberately don't allow your own domain, and they lie about their reason, claiming privacy:

"No. We are an email provider with a particular, privacy-oriented model – and this is not compatible with incorporating own domains."

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by FpUser »

ValtteriL wrote: post #32

I used Tuta for both private and business use for a couple of years. Switched away because of terrible search experience and lack of SMTP and IMAP access. Tuta became understandably a walled garden that my other tools couldn't easily work with. This wasted alot of my time. Nowadays using $normalemailprovider with Thunderbird.

>"Nowadays using $normalemailprovider with Thunderbird."

Been using this since 2005 I think

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by qweqwe14 »

nargek wrote: post #78
qweqwe14 wrote: post #72

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cock.li is a pretty good E-Mail/VPS provider from what I heard. From their homepage: > How can I trust you? You can't. Cock.li doesn't parse your E-mail to provide you with targeted ads, nor does cock.li read E-mail contents unless it's for a legal court order. However, it is 100% possible for me to read E-mail, and IMAP/SMTP doesn't provide user-side/client-side encryption, so you're just going to have to take my wo…

Ah yes the alt-right paradise. "@hitler.rocks" and "@nuke.africa" are really nice domain to have :) The administrator of cock.lu also famously hosted with oVo systems some more than sketchy boards.

I'd personally love to have an E-Mail address ending with nuke.africa. If you can't understand that it's satirical/jokey, I feel bad for you.

Some people are way too serious on the Internet. If you are offended by a bunch of words without proper context you really need to go outside.

Also see this thread that discusses this at length: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33142122

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by NOWHERE_ »

nargek wrote: post #78
qweqwe14 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cock.li is a pretty good E-Mail/VPS provider from what I heard. From their homepage: > How can I trust you? You can't. Cock.li doesn't parse your E-mail to provide you with targeted ads, nor does cock.li read E-mail contents unless it's for a legal court order. However, it is 100% possible for me to read E-mail, and IMAP/SMTP doesn't provide user-side/client-side encryption, so you're just going to have to take my wo…

Ah yes the alt-right paradise. "@hitler.rocks" and "@nuke.africa" are really nice domain to have :) The administrator of cock.lu also famously hosted with oVo systems some more than sketchy boards.

Where can I read more about the sketchy boards hosted by the admin?

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by mk89 »

Beijinger wrote: post #90
mk89 wrote: post #83

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Indeed, it seems that if you don't run your own kubernetes you're not cool enough. Products should just work the way they are intended to be. Apple built an empire on this simple concept. But hey, "open source all things" have decided I must use 4 products from 4 different providers to send an receive emails so that I am "safe".

"But hey, "open source all things" have decided I must use 4 products from 4 different providers to send an receive emails so that I am "safe"." Depends. For my mother? She is fine with gmail. But an IT savvy person should consider having their own email domain. And why not host your own rss reader and a few other things. It is rarely a good idea to buy this out of one hand. So domain registrar (e.g. internet.bs ), e…

> But an IT savvy person should consider having their own email domain.

Having email domain is different than hosting your own email servers. And even that - why would I care so much? There are plenty of articles here on HN of people telling how hard it is to host your own email servers.

Plus, tech-savvy doesn't mean I want to waste 2 hours a week updating managing servers etc., while I could maybe learn ... "Flutter"? Or technology X. Or something else completely different.

In general, assuming what a group of people should or shouldn't do seems pretty naive to me.

> if you don't pay for the product you are the product.

I pay for Fastmail and it works. Until when? I can't tell - I hope they don't go bankrupt. But they offer a good service, decent price, and it gives me 1-2 hours of life back per week or month.

I understand your counterarguments, however nowadays there is enough variety that enables us to use products and services for quite some time. Even open source can get you into "vendor" lock-in, especially when a tool or product doesn't evolve anymore and the community doesn't have interest or manpower to improve it.

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

bob_fastmail wrote: post #60
Beijinger wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is supposed to be good. But you can just buy your own domain with Email hosting. It is free with gandi.net. Or use https://www.infomaniak.com/ Infomaniak also sells email hosting for around 20 Euro per year, they are based in Switzerland. If you have your own domain, just type the domain name as you would buy the domain and if the interface says domain taken, select email hosting (the three dots).

Just note that fastmail‘s search is basically useless if you expect Gmail-like search (unless I am missing some sort of trick to get it working). The rest of Fastmail is excellent though.

Tell me more. I use Gmail at work and Fastmail at home, and I usually access all my emails via search. I much prefer Fastmail overall.
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