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Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by chefandy »

corbezzoli wrote: post #76
throw101010 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the potential use of this data by governments around the world for less innocuous purposes than "showing relevant ads". It is not too surprising that companies who can profit from it push the data collection as far as they can. It is more surprising/troubling how the people in general seem to either have completely capitulated due to the generalization of the data collection... or fail to understand the implicati…

Got it, so why not outlaw that? For all we know, they can continue doing what but not show us relevant ads. I suppose twitter knows nothing about me and shows me stupid gaming ads all the time. I click on them exactly 0 times. Show me something relevant to what I see on HN and probably will even find it useful. If I can’t block all ads, at least show me something useful.

Well, a good start would be a ban specifically on the behavioral advertising on Facebook and Instagram which in recent US elections exposed dangerous consequences when bad actors were thrown into the mix. Many people wrote millions of words about it over the better part of the past decade if you are inexplicably unfamiliar with the problem. The idea that anyone could effectively outlaw political influence by covert operatives directed by nation states is patently ridiculous, so you have to look at the mechanism they used to do it. And, voila! That's the topic of this post.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by vivekd »

jurynulifcation wrote: post #87
vivekd wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I donno, I know I'm in the minority but I agree with the parent. Facebook isn't going to people's homes and rifling through drawers. They're using information people willigly share in their profiles. They're not selling personally identifiable information. They're selling generalized group info on categories people fall into for targeted ads. I don't understand how this is a privacy violation or unethical. Especially…

lmao no, you're either misinformed or a bad actor. when they start tracking me through services they don't own, when they retain data on me indefinitely and purchase other data sources to do entity resolution, when they refuse to let me see what they have on me and refuse to let me set policies on what I'm comfortable with them having, when they partner with Walmart and CCTV providers to spy on me as I go throughout…

I have a hard time believing Facebook is tracking it's customers through CCTV.

In any case even if they are I still don't care because they're not tracking me. Know why - it's easy, I just don't use Facebook. People who complain about Facebook collecting their information all the while continuing to use Facebook are not victims - they're just complainers.

If stopping it is as simple as logging off forever and people can't even do that, I can only assume that they consent.

People who want the government to step in to prevent something they could prevent by hitting a log off button...I don't even know what to say about that.

Besides even the criticisms don't make sense - eg complaining that they won't say what info they have while at the same time complaining about video tracking. How do you know they have that if you don't know what they have?

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by [deleted] »

SargeDebian wrote: post #15
exabrial wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is disappointing. What is the motivation for them to actually obey the law?

Not sure if that's a serious question and you actually consider lawsuits by private individuals the only functioning method of law enforcement, but: enforcement by governments or regulators is a thing, and on top of that anyone can still sue Meta, they're just not going to get rich doing so.

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Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by neontomo »

Context from the Norwegian article:

Meta promised to ask users whether they want to opt-in, but they never did, so now they are banning these behaviours until they have come up with a better way of handling this.

Furthermore, Meta wanted those who opt-out of data sharing to have to pay money, which is most likely not legal.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by Barrin92 »

fsckboy wrote: post #57

scandinavians are no different from other people, and changing the rules of advertising will not diminish Norwegian companies from wanting to advertise their goods. back in the 80's Norway had a ban on cigarette advertising, so Marlboro launched a clothing/lifestyle brand, blue jeans and other cowboy style clothes. With their competitors hobbled by the advertising ban, perhaps that was even more effective.

>scandinavians are no different from other people

Household consumption as a % of GDP in Norway is 30% compared to 68% in the US. The Norwegian public sector produces 70% of Norway's GDP. You're underestimating to what extent these policies reflect real differences in how countries are run. In the good old USA Facebook et al are allowed to do what they do because people keeping those credit cards busy is what keeps the economy up. Doesn't work that way in Norway and a decent chunk of Europe.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

Daz1 wrote: post #6

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because it takes control from our devices.

in the past, we could tune out that channel with the remote.Tune another channel. Catch another show. And the original show would continue when you came back, even if you missed a few secs

The current setup does not allow this. We are losing ownership of our devices.

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