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CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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Oregon requires a prescription.

Oof, remind me not to move there. I wouldn't survive an allergy season. Though to be fair, I imagine most GPs would write a prescription pretty quick.

You can move here - prescriptions have not been required since January 1, 2022.

Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

#92
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And this means we're going to have an easier time buying the stuff that works...right? ...right?

It's already easy to buy the stuff that works. You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase). You'll need to get over that, because I don't think the rate limit is going anywhere: psuedoephedrine essentially is methamphetamine, and it's the worst conceivable kind: the kind…

In my experience (perhaps my state), a pharmacy will now only dispense pseudoephedrine to you they "know you." As in, you regularly fill other medications at that pharmacy.

If you don't take other medications? I don't know, I assume you're fucked.

Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's already easy to buy the stuff that works. You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase). You'll need to get over that, because I don't think the rate limit is going anywhere: psuedoephedrine essentially is methamphetamine, and it's the worst conceivable kind: the kind…

I'm never giving up on this as an issue. You don't just have to go up to the counter and ask and wait behind all of the people getting prescriptions filled- you get rate limited, never mind if you are buying it for a whole family, never mind if your previous supply was destroyed. I almost wish it were illegal, as black markets would make it easier to buy.

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Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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Wishful thinking, but next up should be homeopathic snake-oil. No company should have a homeopathic product sitting on the shelf next to an actual medicine.

> Wishful thinking, but next up should be homeopathic snake-oil. It sounds like it's serving a useful purpose. > "I know so many people… hell, I've done this myself, I've bought [a homeopathic] product by mistake," Little said. In a trip to the drug store while sick or as a weary parent of a miserably ill child, it's easy to mistakenly pick up a homeopathic product in haste or the fog of infection. If folks are going…

I've mentioned this story before, but homeopathic medicine doesn't funnel people towards net-neutral treatments, it pushes them towards harmful ones. Like the time I was at a family meeting and a distant cousin's baby was crying (as babies often do). Another cousin offers a homeopathic tincture they bought earlier to calm the baby and when I took a look at the label, it was random spices and largely alcohol.

Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's already easy to buy the stuff that works. You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase). You'll need to get over that, because I don't think the rate limit is going anywhere: psuedoephedrine essentially is methamphetamine, and it's the worst conceivable kind: the kind…

> You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase) Up to the counter and ask...when the counter is open that is increasingly a problem as pharmacies close and hours are limited (the two nearest me close at 6pm, right at the end of working hours). Show ID...that the pharmacist…

The only reason I have a state ID is for buying Sudafed. I was tired of "my system won't scan your passport".

I disagree with the person that replied to you, you really don't need a state ID for anything.

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But they leave the homeopathic junk mixed in as if it was actual medicine.

Homeopathic stuff is placebo, that's what it is. And placebos work very well. Who cares if they are not medicines? Sometimes all you need a placebo. You should not discount just how effective placebos actually are! Although I do recognize the potential for fraud here - they disclaimers they put on there should be more prominent.

How do you know placebos work? You can’t do a randomized placebo controlled trial to test them.

Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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And this means we're going to have an easier time buying the stuff that works...right? ...right?

No. But the sad joke is you can buy 20 guns without presenting your license or having the state tell you no. But if you got a sinus headache? You’re a dangerous individual. You gotta get registered and in the system so we can track you.

Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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My understanding is that they are only removing products that ONLY contain Phenylephrine, which means they will still sell it when it is part of multiple-ingredient formulations, which are in themselves kind of a scam. For example, many OTC "severe cold/flu" formulations contain: - Acetaminophen. Potentially helpful for the body aches that come with the flu, but a lot of the time when I'm sick, I don't exactly need o…

Not harmless with Acetaminophen of they don't realize it and also take pills at the same time, pretty narrow range to liver damage.

Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's already easy to buy the stuff that works. You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase). You'll need to get over that, because I don't think the rate limit is going anywhere: psuedoephedrine essentially is methamphetamine, and it's the worst conceivable kind: the kind…

It's not easy in my state. It goes like this: go to inside counter of an open pharmacy (can't use drive thru for it). Wait, for a long time (aren't all of your pharmacies massively overloaded with 30-60m lines? ours are). Ask for a 96-count sudafed (generic or regular) and hope they have it. If they don't, get 48. If they don't, get 24 (forget that I need 2 tabs every day as prescribed by my doctor -- yet can only bu…

Do you usually take decongestants for 12+ days? I usually just take them a couple of times on the worst days of a cold, maybe 5 pills every time I get sick.

And pharmacies in my city don’t usually have more than 1 or 2 people ahead of me in line.

Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's already easy to buy the stuff that works. You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase). You'll need to get over that, because I don't think the rate limit is going anywhere: psuedoephedrine essentially is methamphetamine, and it's the worst conceivable kind: the kind…

In my experience (perhaps my state), a pharmacy will now only dispense pseudoephedrine to you they "know you." As in, you regularly fill other medications at that pharmacy. If you don't take other medications? I don't know, I assume you're fucked.

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