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Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by BoorishBears »

LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #86
HDThoreaun wrote: post #69

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Imo the worst part about this noreplit thing is that everyone who uses their product does, or at least should, know how difficult creating something like it is. These aren't the outside the tech bubble people, they're just confoundingly entitled.

That’s the impression I got looking at the dev behind this site. They clearly have development experience, they’re just mad and trying to make as much noise about it as they can.

I got the impression that they're very young and that can understandably come with a bit less self-awareness.

If that is the case, imo they'd be better served looking into the immense amount of resources available to students: I know when I was a kid I had $0 to spend on software and hardware, just sending an email from a .edu account got people willing to give

Today it's even easier to get those kinds of resources: https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by wonrax »

apitman wrote: post #82
wonrax wrote: post #48

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I currently host a personal VPN and my website (which includes a static blog, a Rust API, and a Postgres database), all on a $6/m VPS. Being a first-time customer, the service provider offered a 100% bonus on the credit I deposited making it even half as expensive. It probably won't hold up when the site has decent traffic, but for now it's the best money I've spent.

What do you do with the API?

Currently it has only one API route to simultaneously increments the view count in Postgres and returns an HTML badge containing the count. In the future I want to use it for authentication, particularly for admin routes and other stuff to access my private data.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by caseyf7 »

folivore wrote: post #7

I get that losing access to things you got used to sucks. At the same time, IMO, this post comes across quite entitled and whiny. Nobody owes you anything, specially not free hosting and/or server time forever. That stuff isn’t cheap and isn’t easy to manage, and they’re paying people and infra on what I imagine isn’t a great return. So, free users are sad because it’s not the free they want it to be, except the free…

The part that gets me is they have been reaching out to schools with their Teams for Education program and given the impression that it’s great for kids because it is free outside of the program.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by esdott »

Woah woah woah. The sentiment here is pretty wild for me. Creating a platform that offers a free tier is a BUSINESS decision. Replit knew what they were doing bringing all of those free ‘customers’ online. They didn’t do it out of the goodness of their heart and they have to deal with the very real/costly aftermath of a bait/switch. Perhaps we should be used to this rug pull by now but that’s still what it is. I’ve never used replit but have been in the position to decide on creating a freemium model and I knew quite well what the consequences would have been. The idea that were saying it’s the users fault for falling for a tactic that’s origin is “yo man, try this … first hits free” is crazy to me. Now get off my lawn.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by scubazealous »

dash2 wrote: post #81
wutwutwat wrote: post #65

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You have to be trolling Learning how linux operates, ops is done, networks are configured, firewalls are hardened, processes are monitored, resources are allocated, disks are backed up, ips are assigned, routing tables work, symlinks work, and code is deployed is never going to be an obsolete skill. Pick whatever amazing heroku, fly, render, replit, next, k8s, nomad, docker, whatever platform you think has abstracted…

I am not trolling. My view is that there will be a few very smart people at the companies you mention, doing those things. But most jobs in the tech industry will not require those skills. That's the point of specialization. It is efficient. You claim that linux, disk backup and routing tables will never be obsolete. Really?

I am curious what your background or specialization is, but I can confirm the skills you learn from Linux, backups, and networking will be applicable now and in the future. The only thing they can do is help make you a better engineer.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by jodrellblank »

a1o wrote: post #16
simpaticoder wrote: post #11

Rent a $5/mo Linux VPS and be happy. I think more people should do this because what you learn (and you'll learn a lot) is the foundation of everything else. Do this even if you are a programmer used to deploying to sophisitcated CI/CD stacks and k8s. The tight resource constraints (e.g. 1G RAM) are good for you - they make you think, and take care what you run and when you run it. Learn to setup ssh on both ends; le…

Do you have a link to this 5 dollar service you mention? The ones I knew have risen prices considerably.

I get them from the aggregator https://lowendbox.com when companies offer deals; some have been great, some poor, but all very cheap; I think $14/year has been a decent one.

Although my current one only has 512MB RAM and isn’t enough for Rust to compile Scryer Prolog. Prolog, a language first run on the computers of 1971 and standardised around 1998.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by CJefferson »

coder543 wrote: post #85
CJefferson wrote: post #78

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Well, it’s cheap until a badly behaved script starts sending lots of data and Amazon charges your card a huge bill (unless they’ve finally got around to hard price caps?)

None of these 4 providers do hard caps. If a lack of hard caps is your complaint, file it against all of them. Lightsail instances each include at least 1TB of transfer each month, which is the same as DigitalOcean. Vultr and Linode also charge network overage fees on a per gigabyte basis if you transfer too much. Absolutely, everyone should set up billing alerts on any of these services. I'm not here to say Lightsai…

I was told digitaloceon at least had caps, but you are right, none of them do.

In which case, I’m not using any of them outside of an LLC.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by moqmar »

esdott wrote: post #94

Woah woah woah. The sentiment here is pretty wild for me. Creating a platform that offers a free tier is a BUSINESS decision. Replit knew what they were doing bringing all of those free ‘customers’ online. They didn’t do it out of the goodness of their heart and they have to deal with the very real/costly aftermath of a bait/switch. Perhaps we should be used to this rug pull by now but that’s still what it is. I’ve n…

Yeah, they've also switched their complete concept around before, going from a simple web code editor to a deployment-based hobby hoster, already breaking the use cases (and simplicity) for many users.

I totally agree and would say that openly criticising such decisions is important, so that companies are a bit more careful with introducing usecase-breaking changes - including changing their business model in a way that makes it not viable anymore for many users. Such things really make a company seem unreliable, but unfortunately it seems to have become common with the "ship early, break often" mentality especially in the start-up world.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by dash2 »

scubazealous wrote: post #95
dash2 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not trolling. My view is that there will be a few very smart people at the companies you mention, doing those things. But most jobs in the tech industry will not require those skills. That's the point of specialization. It is efficient. You claim that linux, disk backup and routing tables will never be obsolete. Really?

I am curious what your background or specialization is, but I can confirm the skills you learn from Linux, backups, and networking will be applicable now and in the future. The only thing they can do is help make you a better engineer.

I'm an outsider. But sometimes they see things insiders don't, or don't want to. I'm an economist, and in my reading of economic history, I have yet to hear of a skill that always stayed applicable.
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