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iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by themoonisachees »

maronato wrote: post #64
dylan604 wrote: post #59

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>Yeah, sponsor sections of content is usually done respectfully of the audience. I literally just LOL'd and spit water at my screen reading that. They are the most condescending over the top waaaaay too long of a segment. Even in the 1950's, sponsors were just mentioned along the lines of "This segment is brought to you by Ovaltine. Remember to drink your Ovaltine!" and then moves right the fuck along. But nooooo, yo…

Maybe you should watch other creators then. IME better creators have higher respect for their audiences and create better, even entertaining sponsor segments. I have even been introduced to services I pay for now via these segments. Nebula, Backblaze, DBrand, and Audible are some of them.

I used to think that too, but then i installed sponsorblock. It's like the skipped segment wasn't even there (well, duh). What i mean is that if i skip a segment of the video and not notice it, was it really relevant and well-integrated?

You weren't introduced to these services, you got advertised to. How many raid shadow legend ads did you sit through to hear about backblaze once? Did you ever hear about backblaze from a more reputable source? Did you consider alternatives to backblaze before paying for their services?

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by figmert »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #87
someotherperson wrote: post #58

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Routers run operating systems like everything else does though. What would make my OpenWRT router running this any different from another device on the network?

It only has access to the encrypted payload, while the client has access to the decrypted payload.

The service doesn't deal with encrypted payloads. It just integrates with YouTube's lounge api. As long as a machine is able to run this and is connected to the internet, that should be enough.

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by sofixa »

hutattedonmyarm wrote: post #68
echelon wrote: post #60

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I would pay creators to not see that bullshit. I don't care about NordVPN, Brilliant, SkillShare, or any other trash. I'm entirely less likely to use services that annoy me with their advertising.

Not many creator's are on there, but this is the whole idea of Nebula: https://nebula.tv

I'd say there are a lot of creators, depending on the content type. As long as you're not looking for travel vloggers or unboxing/review videos or "lifestyle" vloggers there's plenty. Pretty much all science/history/urbanism/aviation YouTubers I follow are on Nebula as well.

Issue is that the UX isn't great (e.g. there are no playlists nor queues, and downloads don't work as well as they do on YouTube).

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by bluish29 »

radicality wrote: post #46
ct0 wrote: post #21

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shields smarttube beta is one of the best things ever https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTubeNext

Recommend this one too. I normally use an AppleTV for all my TV needs, but I bought a FireTV stick just to install this app and be able to watch YouTube without ads and sponsored content.

You can sideload a YouTube client with integrated sponsorblock on your AppleTV. But this will require apple developer account ($99 per year). Not q perfect solution and cost money but just wanted to say that is an option for people inside Apple ecosystem.

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by Larrikin »

Bad_CRC wrote: post #90

I use https://github.com/gabe565/CastSponsorSkip that is the same and its great, it also mutes the ads while waiting to be skipped.

Its unclear from the readme, but does this block ads on devices that support casting or only block ads when you are casting? Will it interfere if I have sponsorblock already running on my Android TV?

Also why does this program need to be completely rewritten so many times to eliminate performance issues with the previous version?

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by Larrikin »

dmunozv04 wrote: post #26
loufe wrote: post #19

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There's a docker image with some instructions on Wiki, shouldn't be too tricky to transfer over. If I end up making it work I'll do a PR for the project wiki for Synology install steps.

AFAIK some people have used it on synology successfully in the past. A PR including specific steps would be amazing though

I spent about a month looking for detailed guides on how to add individual services to my Synology and just constantly being frustrated.

Then I found an extremely detailed but very opinionated guide on how to setup a suite of apps with docker compose and ssh because the author's were very much against the GUI and built in apps. It's been a much smoother and easier experience installing services since I no longer need to seek out half baked guides on someone who got it working good enough for them on their NAS.

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by hutattedonmyarm »

sofixa wrote: post #94
hutattedonmyarm wrote: post #68

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Not many creator's are on there, but this is the whole idea of Nebula: https://nebula.tv

I'd say there are a lot of creators, depending on the content type. As long as you're not looking for travel vloggers or unboxing/review videos or "lifestyle" vloggers there's plenty. Pretty much all science/history/urbanism/aviation YouTubers I follow are on Nebula as well. Issue is that the UX isn't great (e.g. there are no playlists nor queues, and downloads don't work as well as they do on YouTube).

I agree, most of my YouTube creator's are there. I'm basically missing only Tom Scott, Kurzgesagt and Technology Connections.

UX is pretty meh (although the "Nebula Enhancer" browser plugin at least fixes the missing queue), but that doesn't work in the app obviously

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by danShumway »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #79
echelon wrote: post #60

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I would pay creators to not see that bullshit. I don't care about NordVPN, Brilliant, SkillShare, or any other trash. I'm entirely less likely to use services that annoy me with their advertising.

Would you (and other people like you) be able to pay enough to match $2000 per video? And this is for a channel with "only" 260k subscribers https://youtu.be/40Q7usuG2Cw?si=gfUS6TzIgNImTORX On my phone so I can't easily timestamp but showing monetary amounts begins at 6:50 Brilliant, $4500 for 3 videos. Blinkist, $2000 for one video. VPN, specific brand not named, $5800 for a 90 second ad read. Raid Shadow Legends, $…

This video has been viewed 134,000 times. At $2000 per video, that would be a cost of 1.5 cents per-view, and that's assuming no one else after this point would pay for the video. Inline sponsorships are probably the best form of advertising out there in terms of creator payout, but the reality is that even at its best, advertising for creators pays so low that it is really feasible for you to just sponsor the creators you're following for even just a buck a month and you'll probably be more valuable to them as a contributor than any of the people who are leaving ads enabled.

Especially if they're small creators. There really is a threshold in advertising where a lot of indie creators are not going to be offered this kind of money.

I don't blame creators for doing what they need to do to make money, the state of advertising is not their fault. But as an ecosystem of users and developers and as an industry, we can make a choice about whether a system that encourages influencers to lie about product recommendations and directly influences their content and the topics they can talk about is more or less exploitative and regressive than asking people to give money to creators directly.

Advertising is often phrased as an alternative to regressive taxes on content -- it allows us to give content to people who couldn't pay otherwise. But advertising is itself a regressive tax; advertisers would not be paying any money for advertising if it didn't change purchaser behavior. And for the social cost of that regressive tax, content creators get very little payout in return. $2000-6000 for a video sounds good only because we're thinking about it in comparison to Youtube payout. But it's not very much money for a video that likely required multiple workers and several weeks to a month to produce.

Re: iSponsorBlockTV v2: SponsorBlock for TVs and game consoles

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Post by ct0 »

bluish29 wrote: post #95
radicality wrote: post #46

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Recommend this one too. I normally use an AppleTV for all my TV needs, but I bought a FireTV stick just to install this app and be able to watch YouTube without ads and sponsored content.

You can sideload a YouTube client with integrated sponsorblock on your AppleTV. But this will require apple developer account ($99 per year). Not q perfect solution and cost money but just wanted to say that is an option for people inside Apple ecosystem.

shield costs about $150 iirc
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