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I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by kiltedpanda »

tarek_computer wrote: post #71
kiltedpanda wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We hire on Freelancer sites quite a bit and have noticed that about 50%-80% of applicants now very obviously use ChatGPT or equivalent to apply. Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. They are currently very easy to spot and the applications go directly into the trash, so the freelancers aren't doing themselves any favors using them. It is in…

What are the most common freelancing sites you use for job postings?

Freelancer.com and Upwork. Although after the torrent of AI powered garbage we received after our latest posting on Freelancer, I'm not sure we will use that again.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by HWR_14 »

rgblambda wrote: post #49
transcriptase wrote: post #20

Apply to Procter & Gamble, and as part of the application itself enjoy being put through 1-2 hours of ambiguous personality/morality testing and Mensa-style math, memorization, and logic puzzles! With adaptive difficulty! It's the most surreal and absurd experience. There are actually prep courses you can pay for just to improve your odds on the P&G testing process just to get someone to actually see your resume. Be…

Is P&G a particularly great employer that justifies such a bizarre job application?

If you want to work in advertising and marketing, yes. If I recall correctly it's reputation in those circles is equivalent to FAANG in tech.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by HWR_14 »

EarthAmbassador wrote: post #80

Why do HR people demand the duplication of efforts including manual entry of the very same information on a resume or LinkedIn profile, two resources that many HR people request. This is abusive, lazy, and easily solvable issue. I don’t bother applying with any company that feels entitled to ware my time.

It's not their time or their budget, so it works out to $0 cost on their spreadsheet.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by wierd-eye-loser »

Peroni wrote: post #79
kraftman wrote: post #66

Is how long it takes to submit your generic CV a valuable statistic? Is there a benefit for companies to make it easy for you to apply to them? I don't think anyone is sitting around going 'We just have no good candidates, if only people could apply in 71 seconds instead of 160, then we'd finally see the applicant quality increase'

>Is how long it takes to submit your generic CV a valuable statistic? Not at all. If anything, you want people to take their time when applying. In almost every A/B test I've ever run, the more questions I introduce into the application process, the quality of applications increases exponentially, the time to filter applications decreases, and the decrease in the total number of applications was barely noticeable.

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Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by tarek_computer »

kiltedpanda wrote: post #91
tarek_computer wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the most common freelancing sites you use for job postings?

Freelancer.com and Upwork. Although after the torrent of AI powered garbage we received after our latest posting on Freelancer, I'm not sure we will use that again.

Thank you. I have side question for you. Sorry, all this thread coincides with another thread about LinkedIn and me getting banned without knowing why (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37748263). As a job recruiter looking for freelancers, do you expect to find the person on LinkedIn as part of the fact checking process? Would you seriously consider alternating sites such as a person’s website or GitHub and would you find the person a suspect if their LinkedIn profile does not exist ?

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by itronitron »

HWR_14 wrote: post #92
rgblambda wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is P&G a particularly great employer that justifies such a bizarre job application?

If you want to work in advertising and marketing, yes. If I recall correctly it's reputation in those circles is equivalent to FAANG in tech.

I recall seeing a presentation in school by a young brand manager at P&G where they were talking about their excitement of being in charge of sales and marketing of a particular body wash in the southwest region.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by roamerz »

lazide wrote: post #74
roamerz wrote: post #67

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> Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. That's crazy to me. Why would someone put ANYTHING on their resume that is not factually correct? That in the end is a disservice to yourself and to your potential employer, not to mention the pressure it puts on job seekers to push the envelope on embellishment. What I am on the fence about in my own…

I bet you’re surprised that people lie all the time to women at bars too!

Haha.. wait have we met? :D

It would be a fun experiment to have a few shots, update my resume and then read it the next day.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by notsurenymore »

0xffff2 wrote: post #86
PascLeRasc wrote: post #46

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Very likely going to be zero. The only way I can get a chance at a phone screen is to spend at least an hour crafting my resume and cover letter for each position.

Can you describe in more detail what this actually means? I can't imagine what I would spend an hour doing to my resume that would somehow make it more attractive to a specific employer without outright lying.

I’m not sure how accurate it is, but I started to play with jobscan to test my resume against ATS scanning. It was getting knocked for not having uselessly vague keywords like “business solutions” in the resume when they were in the job app, or not listing every single data format I’ve worked with. So now, I’ve just started keyword dumping my resume with everything in a job listing even though it feels stupid.

I doubt it matters much though. Even when I get passed the initial resume screen these days, it’s usually followed up with a “we’ve decided to pursue someone else” from the recruiter/hiring manager/etc. before I can even get to an interview. And that’s for jobs where my resume seems a perfect fit.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by roamerz »

blitzar wrote: post #72
roamerz wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. That's crazy to me. Why would someone put ANYTHING on their resume that is not factually correct? That in the end is a disservice to yourself and to your potential employer, not to mention the pressure it puts on job seekers to push the envelope on embellishment. What I am on the fence about in my own…

> That's crazy to me. Why would s ... Because it works... They get the job and the person who wasnt captain of the football, tennis, rowing, lacrose, bowling, sailing, cheerleading, chess and debate teams all at the same time is just some unemployable loser. The real question is why managers and recruiters fall for it - the obvious answer is that they got where they got by inflating their CV and simply assume everyon…

I really hope your obvious answer is not a widespread truth. Seems like a horribly vicious circle.
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