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Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by Veserv »

spankalee wrote: post #90
Veserv wrote: post #72

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The problem you want solved, perfect sandboxing for untrusted code, is only just THE single most important problem in operating system security. If you can solve that then you have the basis of a perfectly secure, unhackable operating system. Anybody claiming to solve that problem at speed in any other software domain can trivially use those same techniques to create a perfectly secure operating system runtime. So, y…

Fuchsia solves that.

Yeah, you are going to need to support a claim of solving the biggest problem in operating system security with more than a random assertion.

How about you start by finding a quote by any member of the development team who is willing to support the claim that Fuchsia establishes unhackable separation/sandboxes? If nobody making the software is willing to say that then we can be sure that they did not achieve it.

You can then follow it up by pointing to a mathematical proof that the code enforces separation kernel security properties where the proof has been verified by a competent third party. I will not demand you present or link the proof, all you need to show is that one exists and a credible party assents.

Only then do you have the bare minimum of evidence needed to support a assertion like that.

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by andybak »

IshKebab wrote: post #43
djhworld wrote: post #39

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I really miss forums tbh, what happened to them? It feels like Discord has replaced the good old forum but it's worse in so many ways.

Most forums were awful phpbb nonsense where it was impossible to find the information you wanted. Search always required logging in and the only interface for very long threads was paging through them 10 badly laid out posts at a time. No thank you. Of course modern forums are better. Disqus is ok, and D's forum software is arguably the best thing to come out of the D project. In any case Discord is not a replacement…

> Search always required logging in

I always used a search engine to search. Site search is usually worse than Google (is/was)

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by andybak »

nilslice wrote: post #32
andybak wrote: post #4

Another open Source project locking their community discussions away on Discord where it can't be easily discovered or searched. At least consider mirroring to the web - or at this stage inform people you will one day make posts available on the open web. Acquiring that consent afterwards is painful.

hear ya loud and clear -- and we use multiple forms of communication.. GitHub issues and discussions are actively suggested when we find that a conversation is turning into something that would benefit others and move from Discord. Discord is really advantageous for us to have real-time conversations with people though.

My point is that people WILL use your Discord as a forum and it WILL accumulate valuable knowledge.

This knowledge should be mirrored to the web so it's discoverable and archivable. And to do that you need consent - you should notify users now even if you don't implement it now.

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by andybak »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #33
andybak wrote: post #4

Another open Source project locking their community discussions away on Discord where it can't be easily discovered or searched. At least consider mirroring to the web - or at this stage inform people you will one day make posts available on the open web. Acquiring that consent afterwards is painful.

Is there some service available for mirroring discord chats the web?

I used https://www.answeroverflow.com/ which can be self-hosted.

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by andybak »

treyd wrote: post #51
andybak wrote: post #4

Another open Source project locking their community discussions away on Discord where it can't be easily discovered or searched. At least consider mirroring to the web - or at this stage inform people you will one day make posts available on the open web. Acquiring that consent afterwards is painful.

I've been wanting a bot that would scrape discord conversations into a database and then render them as HTML to be served statically, bash.org-style.

https://www.answeroverflow.com/ roughly does this and can be self-hosted

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by yebyen »

bhelx wrote: post #87
yebyen wrote: post #34

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There's a lightning talk version from GitOpsCon (at GitOpsCon/CDCon Vancouver - co hosted with OSS Summit later in the week) But they are pretty much the same talk, except at CDCon, I hadn't written the Kubernetes operator so that it actually ran the Wasm module yet. At the end of the talk at OSS Summit, I show it running and I'm so glad you enjoy it! I will definitely check out your new ruby SDK :tada:

really enjoyed the talk btw!

Thanks so much!

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by IshKebab »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #74
IshKebab wrote: post #43

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Most forums were awful phpbb nonsense where it was impossible to find the information you wanted. Search always required logging in and the only interface for very long threads was paging through them 10 badly laid out posts at a time. No thank you. Of course modern forums are better. Disqus is ok, and D's forum software is arguably the best thing to come out of the D project. In any case Discord is not a replacement…

What makes the D-language forums so good? Never used them. ( https://forum.dlang.org/ )

Just have a browse. It's so fast! Also very clean, not stupidly sparse layout. Proper markdown support. I believe it also acts as a mailing list/newsgroup somehow but I'm not sure on the details of that.

Mainly it's just so fast and clean.

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by h4x0rr »

pests wrote: post #41
andybak wrote: post #30

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1. Discord search is very poor 2. Discord will go away one day and so will all the accumulated knowledge 3. People who aren't directly looking for your project won't find it. It's will have no search footprint. You have to actively seek out the Discord to discover that that's activity there. "Most people" don't already have it. Only a fairly specific handful of demographics.

> "Most people" don't already have it. Only a fairly specific handful of demographics. This just shows how in-a-bubble people can be. I'm trying to think of a single person outside of my hardcore gamer friends that I know who would have Discord - drawing a blank.

I was talking about "most people" in the IT bubble as well

Re: Extism makes WebAssembly easy

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Post by dvngnt_ »

justinclift wrote: post #57
dvngnt_ wrote: post #22

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can't view without a phone number at times

Discord doesn't seem to need a phone number. Are you thinking of Telegram, which does?

it depends. if your account gets flagged by some ML algo then they can ask for a number for verfication.

it's similar to meta where some flagged accounts have to add an id

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